On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:20:37 Tim Cook wrote:
...
>I'll rephrase the question to make it more direct.
>What information is missing from the FreePM database that would cause
>you to think that FreePM is not / could not be a valuable research tool?
...
I didn't realize that you were still asking about FreePM for research. :-)
This has already been discussed, as previously cited.
See here:
****begin excerpt from FPM-Discuss archive
(http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/7111/2001/3/50/5299720/)
FROM: Andrew po-jung Ho
DATE: 03/07/2001 22:05:15
SUBJECT: [FPM-Discuss] Re: FreePM 0.6.0b - Is Online
On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:28:45 Tim Cook wrote:
...
>Build good templates and it will be tagged the way YOU want it to
>be tagged.
Hmm... Are you suggesting that the "templates" should contain the tags
as part of the template? It seems that the "text" is already quite cluttered
as is.
...
>Kind of like OIO; "So flexible it's hard to believe".
Indeed, you can even create recursive templates :-).
...
>A template, by definition is a one way device.
Good point. Free text will always be more flexible than "forms". Tagged
text with contraint (e.g. DTD) is no more flexible than "forms".
Thus, FreePM templates aid the production of free text - without imposing
constraints - permitting maximum flexibility.
>You can re-import
>templates to edit, not the generated text.
Got it! Makes it hard to use FreePM for clinical research :-).
*****end excerpt
Again, FreePM templates are not designed to support the structured data capture used
in research. One can extract data from tagged text or free text but that is more prone
to human error and may not be adequate for some applications. For example, FreePM
allows direct, post-generation editing of tags. (And the recursion *feature* as noted
above).
This is the major design difference between FreePM and OIO. Both offer flexible "input
templates", but the current FreePM templates do not support input constraints.
Therefore, they can only be used as an one-way data entry aid.
As I mentioned before(http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/7111/2001/3/50/5298976/),
it is possible to use OIO's forms to emulate FreePM's templates. However, it is not
possible to do the reverse. When FreePM-OIO is available, both "FreePM templates" and
"OIO forms" will be available in the same system. I think that is one way to get the
best of both worlds. :-)
Hope that helps,
Andrew
---
Andrew P. Ho, M.D.
OIO: Open Infrastructure for Outcomes
TxOutcome.Org (hosting OIO Library #1)
Assistant Clinical Professor
Department of Psychiatry, Harbor-UCLA Medical Center
University of California, Los Angeles
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:20:37 Tim Cook wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Jun 2001, Andrew po-jung Ho wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>> I am agreeing with you that FreePM's templates may be adequate for
>non-researchers. The reason that I put a question mark at the end is that it is a
>little too early to know how adequate it is (in its current form). There have been
>comments about templates before and I refer you to the following messages:
>>
>I'll rephrase the question to make it more direct.
>What information is missing from the FreePM database that would cause
>you to think that FreePM is not / could not be a valuable research tool?
>
>RE: Information in templates. As discussed, the templates can and
>should be marked up with XHTML as appropriate. The actual tags should
>come from this community. The templates that are currently finished
>use only <icd></icd> and <charge_code></charge_code> tags inside the
>note itself. It is not my domain that can/should choose the tags that
>should be used. I will provide any guidance that I can and conflict
>resolution. But clinicians and researchers together know much more
>about the tag set needed than I. This is the key benefit to being
>able to build your own templates. The user can put the needed tags
>into the system. This can lead to a chaotic situation if not
>administered correctly, that is where I can help.
>
>Gotta run...
> --
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