Hi Yuko,

The contrast only allows you to constrain the anatomical ROI. If you 
don't spec a contrast, then it uses the whole anat ROI. Nothing gets 
averaged until you run funcroi-table-sess, and that only averages over 
the given contrast (unless you use -vol in which case it just reports 
the volume of the ROI from the previous stages). Make sense?

doug

Yuko Yotsumoto wrote:
> Thanks Doug,
>
> If I don't specify a contrast with funcroi-config, then, the value I get from 
> funcroi-table-sess is the average across all conditions including fixation?
>
> What I want to get is a non-thresholded value for each condition. So I should 
> specify a contrast with funcroi-config, correct? 
> And -c flag with funcroi-config requires -sign and -thresh. So, I guess I'm 
> still stuck to my first question.
>
>   
>>>>> Q1)
>>>>> If I don't want to use any thresholding for ROI analysis, can I use 
>>>>> "-sign abs -thresh 0" with funcroi-config?
>>>>>           
>
> What do you think?
> Yuko
>
> On Dec 8, 2010, at 4:09 AM, Douglas N Greve wrote:
>
>   
>> Good point! This is a slight bug in the program that it requires a 
>> contrast when you ask for the volume. This is because the volume is 
>> completely set once you run funcroi-sess, so it won't make a difference 
>> what contrast you specify. The contrast only matters when you ask it to 
>> report a mean of a contrast. So, you can just specify any contrast in 
>> your analysis, or you can download a new version:
>>
>> ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/funcroi-table-sess
>>
>> I've updated the docs for this one as well.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> doug
>>
>>
>> Yuko Yotsumoto wrote:
>>     
>>> Thanks Doug,
>>>
>>> On Dec 7, 2010, at 12:02 AM, Douglas N Greve wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>>> I'm using:
>>>>> freesurfer-Darwin-leopard-i686-stable-pub-v5.0.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Q1)
>>>>> If I don't want to use any thresholding for ROI analysis, can I use 
>>>>> "-sign abs -thresh 0" with funcroi-config?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> Even easier: just don't specify a contrast.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Let me clarify. I can run funcroi-config without a contrast, but 
>>> funcroi-table-sess requires one. 
>>> Does this mean I don't specify a contrast with funcroi-config, but use -c 
>>> with funcroi-table-sess gives all values within the label?
>>>
>>> Yuko
>>>
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