you can either ftp it or put it on our file drop (you can find both on our wiki)
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011, Rouhollah Abdollahi wrote:

where can I upload one subject? which I have problem with that subject in RH 
registraton.

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> 
wrote:
      if the aseg is good I don't see how it's possible that we don't know 
about the 90 deg rotation. If you upload the dataset I'll take a look
      On Sat, 13 Aug 2011, Rouhollah Abdollahi wrote:

            Hi BruceI think the aseg is good but only rotated 90 degree.  I 
will try to rotate sphere to see how it will create sphere.reg. 



On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> 
wrote:
     Hi Matt

     if they were tipped forward 90deg and we didn't detect it I would think 
that the aseg would fail catastrophically. Did that happen?
     Bruce

On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Matt Glasser wrote:


     So I thought the issue had been solved, but perhaps not.  Bruce, we (i.e. 
David) think the problem with Rouhi?s data is that FreeSurfer
     did not
     detect that the original images were tipped forward 90 degrees and as a 
result the surface registration failed intermittently (i.e. in
     some
     subjects it okay, but in others it is not).  These data were created with 
a fairly old version of FreeSurfer (Rouhi can give the version
     number),
     and then a significant amount of manual effort was put into defining some 
retinotopy on the data.  Therefore it isn?t really a feasible
     option to
     just rerun the data with a newer version of FreeSurfer, but we want to 
make use of accurate FreeSurfer surface registration to make group
     average
     retinotopy results.  So the question is how do we go about making sure the 
spheres are initialized to have the correct rigid orientation
     before
     the registration proceeds.

      

     Thanks,


     Matt.

      


   
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     From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
[mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Rouhollah Abdollahi
     Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:38 PM
     To: Bruce Fischl
     Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
     Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Label2label on fsaverage

      

     I tried to rotate the surface by tksurfer and save it as new file . But 
when I open the new surface like white it was not rotated.
     Is there any special thing that I have to do?

     Best
     Rouhi

     On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Rouhollah Abdollahi <roohy...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

     Dear Bruce
     If I want to rotate sucli pattern too if it is the same?


      

     On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> 
wrote:

     I guess you could rotate the surfaces, save them, then resample the labels 
so that they get the new surface coords and sample them into
     the
     volume, then onto the newly created surfaces. Not sure, we haven't ever 
had to do anything like this.



     On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Rouhollah Abdollahi wrote:

     Dear Bruce
     I think the easiest way is to create all surfaces again but with corrected
     and well aligned brain. The next step for me to create new labels from old
     labels based on white surface (90 degree rotated) to new white surface. But
     how? Is there any way to do that? I mean like label2label or surf2surf if
     two surfaces are the same but one of them only rotated?!

     Bests
     Rouhi

     On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
     wrote:
          I don't see how anything would work if it was off by 90deg, but
          I guess you should try it



     On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Rouhollah Abdollahi wrote:

          Because I am using a result from a very old experiment
          that done on wrong direction and the  orig.mgz s   are not
          oriented according to
          freesurfer template. I cannot creat white because all
          results that I have (label files) are on white surface.
          The only way that I think I need to
          realign all surfaces and volume and apply that rotation on
          my label files.
           

          On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Bruce Fischl
          <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
               not easily. Why would you need to do such a thing?


          On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Rouhollah Abdollahi wrote:

               Dear Bruce

               I have a data set which I can not create the white
          surfaces because all of my results are according to white
          surface. I would
               like to know is
               there any way to rotate all surfaces and volumes and
          labels ... (everything) after finishing recon-all process.
          like 90 degree
               around  X axis? 
               and apply this rotation to all data set?

               Best
               Rouhi


               On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Bruce Fischl
          <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
                    Hi Rouhi

                    I don't really understand. Are you saying you
          transformed the initial image before giving it to
          recon-all? There is a
               switch to
                    mris_register to initialize with the tal xform,
          but we never use it as in pretty extensive tests it didn't
          seem to help.
                    mris_register has a very large initial capture
          range due to it's global search, so I would be surprised
          if the initial
               orientation
                    was the problem.

                    cheers
                    Bruce


                    On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Rouhollah Abdollahi wrote:

                    Dear Bruce
                    I think I found the problem. The problem came
          from the original oriantation of T1 image and I think
          mris_register could
               not
                    find it itself during
                    the recon-all. I added to have initial alignment
          to inflated and the problem solved.( mris_register -curve
          -inflated 
                    ?h.sphere  <template
                    target>  ?h.sphere.reg ) I think it is very
          important to add it to recon-all because if the user
          doesn't know the real
                    oriantation it might make
                    such a problem.

                    Thanks for your quick response.

                    On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Rouhollah
          Abdollahi <roohy...@gmail.com> wrote:
                         Dear Bruce

                         I am working on Freesurfer 2 caret meshes.
          I am using   FreeSurfer2CaretConvertAndRegisterClean.sh
          from Van Essen lab
               to
                    create caret
                         surfaces. when I look at my subjects'
          surfaces I can see in flat map in caret some of subjects
          sulci patterns are
               really
                    distorted
                         and I think it is related to
          sphere registration to fsaverage sphere. Beacsue the code
          is using sphere.reg to create
               all
                    surfaces.
                         for the subjects which I have less
          distortion on sulci pattern I have good data  (3 subjects)
          but for the (9
               subjects)
                    rest it seems
                         they have problem to register to fsaverage.
          Is there any way that I can be sure that
          sphere.reg properly created? 

                    Thank you very much

                    Rouhi



                    On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Bruce Fischl
          <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
                         Try using fsaverage as the trgsubject
                         Cheers
                         Bruce



                         On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Rouhollah
          Abdollahi <roohy...@gmail.com> wrote:

                         > .V1_reg.label --regmethod surface
          --srcsurfreg sphere --trgsurfreg sphere.reg --hemi rh and
          when I tried to load
               the
                    output
                         label file on fsaverage surface like
          inflated one it shows a lot of point looks like it is not
          deformed properly. Is
               it
                    related
                         to registration to fsaverage or something
          esle? The question is how I can register the subjects
          surfaces to fsaverage
                    surfaces?
                         -- With Best Regards Rouhi
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          Dear freesurfer experts
                         >
                         > I've tried to export my label file from
          individual space to fsaverage space by using this command:
                         >
                         > mri_label2label --srclabel rh.V1.label
          --srcsubject SUB1  --trgsubject SUB1 --trglabel rh.V1_reg.
                    > like it is not deformed properly.
                    > Is it related to registration to fsaverage or
          something esle?
                    > The question is how I can register the
          subjects surfaces to fsaverage


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