Hi Oscar

the mri_mc surfaces will no in general be topologically correct. The vertex spacing will also be less uniform

cheers
Bruce
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013, Oscar Esteban wrote:

Thank you so much, Bruce.
Yes, I want the CSF inside the brain (e. g. the ventricles). Sorry for being
unspecific.

I see that the way would be to start from filled.mgz and aseg.mgz until I
get the desired ROIs to have the same label (one for white matter, another
for ventricles ) and then run something like mri_mc, right? (Question 1)

Question 2: ok, if this is the way and regarding only white matter surface.
Would there exist significant differences (per hemisphere) between the
surface obtained with mri_mc and the surfaces from recon all? Because
recon-all runs mri_tessellate, mris_smooth, mris_fix_topology
& mris_make_surfaces to obtain the corresponding result... So just mri_mc
does not seem so complete, right?

Q3: I've been trying one example: I have a binary mask with a grid of
101x101x101, 1mm^3 pixel size with the union of two spheres in nifti format.
I run 'mri_mc mask.nii 1 out' and I get a very nice result, but I see
problems regarding orientation. I attach a snapshot of freeview showing this
and also the output of mri_info mask.nii.

Thanks again

Best regards,
Oscar Esteban


Inline image 1

mri_info mask.nii:

Volume information for roi_csf.nii
          type: nii
    dimensions: 101 x 101 x 101
   voxel sizes: 1.0000, 1.0000, 1.0000
          type: FLOAT (3)
           fov: 101.000
           dof: 0
        xstart: -50.5, xend: 50.5
        ystart: -50.5, yend: 50.5
        zstart: -50.5, zend: 50.5
            TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle: 0.00
degrees
       nframes: 1
       PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
ras xform present
    xform info: x_r =   1.0000, y_r =   0.0000, z_r =   0.0000, c_r =  
 50.5000
              : x_a =   0.0000, y_a =   1.0000, z_a =   0.0000, c_a =  
 50.5000
              : x_s =   0.0000, y_s =   0.0000, z_s =   1.0000, c_s =  
 50.5000
Orientation   : RAS
Primary Slice Direction: axial

voxel to ras transform:
                1.0000   0.0000   0.0000     0.0000
                0.0000   1.0000   0.0000     0.0000
                0.0000   0.0000   1.0000     0.0000
                0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     1.0000

voxel-to-ras determinant 1

ras to voxel transform:
                1.0000  -0.0000  -0.0000    -0.0000
               -0.0000   1.0000  -0.0000    -0.0000
               -0.0000  -0.0000   1.0000    -0.0000
                0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     1.0000



On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Bruce Fischl <[email protected]>
wrote:
      Hi Oscar

      what do you mean by "the CSF surface"? Outside the brain or in
      the ventricles? If outside, there is some code for creating
      boundary element models for EEG/MEG analysis.

      There is no trivial way to create a single surface. The way I've
      done it in the past is to replace the lh or rh values in the
      filled.mgz with the other one and go from there, but it's not
      meant to work that way and you have to mess with it a fair
      amount.

      cheers
      Bruce


      On Tue, 4 Jun 2013, Oscar Esteban wrote:

            Dear all,
            I need to extract three surfaces from MRI data:

            - GM-WM interface -> thus, lh.white and rh.white
            would be the answer.
            - Pial interface -> thus, lh.pial + rh.pial
            - CSF surface

            For CSF, as far as I know, the best option would be
            to generate a binary volume merging the appropriate
            labels
            from aseg.mgz. Then use mri_mc to obtain the
            surface, right?

            For white and pial I guess the best option would be
            to use the recon-all outcome, but I have two
            questions:
            * Is there any mean to merge both hemispheres? I've
            tried several methods but I get trouble with the
            consistency of the cells... the points are
            aggregated, but no work is done to merge cells and
            remove points.
            * What are the differences between the recon-all
            outcome (lh.pial,rh.pial,lh.white,rh.white) with
            respect
            obtaining masks from aseg.mgz and then mri_mc?

            Thank you so much

            Best regards,
            Oscar Esteban


            --
            Oscar Esteban
            PhD Student / Researcher

            Biomedical Image Technologies (BIT), UPM
            ETSI Telecomunicación Lab. C203, Av. Complutense s/n
            - E-28040 Madrid (Spain)
            +34 915 495 700 ext.4234

            Signal Processing Laboratory (LTS5),
            EPFL-STI-IEL-LTS5
            ELD 224 (Bâtiment ELD), Station 11, CH-1015
            Lausanne, Switzerland




The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom
it is
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the
e-mail
contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance
HelpLine at
http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you
in error
but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender
and properly
dispose of the e-mail.




--
Oscar Esteban
PhD Student / Researcher

Biomedical Image Technologies (BIT), UPM
ETSI Telecomunicación Lab. C203, Av. Complutense s/n - E-28040 Madrid
(Spain)
+34 915 495 700 ext.4234

Signal Processing Laboratory (LTS5), EPFL-STI-IEL-LTS5
ELD 224 (Bâtiment ELD), Station 11, CH-1015 Lausanne, Switzerland

_______________________________________________
Freesurfer mailing list
[email protected]
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer


The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail
contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at
http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error
but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly
dispose of the e-mail.

Reply via email to