I didn't mean run mri_convert on the nifti output of another program. I meant run mri_convert directly on the original dicom to convert it to nifti:
        mri_convert yourimage.dcm yourimage.nii.gz

On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, Soto, David wrote:

I see - as said the diffusion output.nii from MRIConverter
http://lcni.uoregon.edu/~jolinda/MRIConvert/ [to not confound it with 
mri_converter)
is not read by Freeview and mri_converter does not like it either
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MD00071523-2:RSDTI_WMGUI/ACH_AMO/diff] dsoto% mri_convert output.nii data.mgz
mri_convert output.nii data.mgz 
$Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.7 2012/09/05 21:55:16 mreuter Exp $
reading from output.nii...
nifti1Read(): unsupported slice timing pattern 5 in 
/Users/dsoto/Documents/fMRI/RSDTI_WMGUI/ACH_AMO/diff/output.nii
No such file or directory
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NOW, I find that if I use FSL and run bet with a fractional intensity threshold 
of 0,
I get an output file which is read by Freeview- which should allow me to proceed
with all the necessary preprocessing steps in trac-all

would this be fine? I dont think the bet I run will affect the image

cheers
ds
http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/people/d.soto/

________________________________________
From: Anastasia Yendiki [ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
Sent: 09 August 2013 23:15
To: Soto, David
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: RE: [Freesurfer]  trac-all inquiry

When you apply a rotation to the DWIs (as eddy_correct does), you need to
apply the same rotation to the corresponding gradient vectors. See for
example: Leemans, A., Jones, D. K., Jun 2009. The B-matrix must be rotated
when correcting for subject motion in DTI data. Magn Reson Med 61 (6),
1336–49.

If you don't want to pass the dicoms to trac-all directly, you can use
mri_convert to convert from dicom to nifti.

On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, Soto, David wrote:

hi - am afraid not because I am feeding to trac-all
already eddycorrected images then in the config file
I have

# Perform registration-based eddy-current compensation?
# Default: 1 (yes)
set doeddy = 0
# Rotate diffusion gradient vectors to match eddy-current compensation?
# Only used if doeddy = 1
# Default: 1 (yes)

is this critical??

unfortunately, this is the only way I manage to get it to work
as said my diffusion outputs from mriconverter
are not read by FS, only through mediation
of some FSL operation on the files, then FS
likes those.

I could start from scratch using dicoms but would prefer
not to  as the data is already well organised

cheers
ds
http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/people/d.soto/

________________________________________
From: Anastasia Yendiki [ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
Sent: 09 August 2013 22:44
To: Soto, David
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer]  trac-all inquiry

Are you rotating the gradient vectors accordingly? This is done in
trac-all after running eddy_correct.

On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, Soto, David wrote:

Hi Anastasia, stuff is running smoothly at last one quick question, is there
any 'disadvantage' in
using FSL to do the eddy correct and then feed
those images to trace-all ?
cheers
ds
http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/people/d.soto/

On 9 Aug 2013, at 15:33, David Soto <ds...@imperial.ac.uk>
 wrote:

      hi, for some reason FS does not like the
      nii file from Mriconverter, ( I saw
      a post about this
      http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg19526.html
      ) but does like
      the nii.gz outputs from FSL...

      I'll try to debug the bepostx error

      thanks!

      ds

      http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/people/d.soto/
On 09/08/13 14:26, Anastasia Yendiki wrote:

      There is no reason to conevrt to .mnc. You should use your
      original .nii, if that shows up correctly in freeview.

      As for the bedpostx error, this is an Ubuntu issue that
      has come to my attention very recently. In Ubuntu /bin/sh
      is not a bash shell any more. To get around this, you'll
      have to edit the first line of the scripts
      $FREESURFER_HOME/bin/bedpostx_mgh and
      $FREESURFER_HOME/bin/fsl_sub_mgh. You'll have to replace
      "/bin/sh" with "/bin/bash" on the first line of those two
      scripts.

      On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, David Soto wrote:

            hi- I tried to convert from nii to mnc becos
            that is what i did when
            I did recon-all

            but I also tried with nii at the beggining and
            got the same issues.
            In fact in my last post (pasted below
            again)the input was a nii file
            could you please check the stuff below?
            thanks! ds


            Hi, further to my prior email
            I made some progress. I noted that nii2mnc
            does not seem to work on the diffusion
            output.nii that I got from Mriconverter as the
            output.mnc brain has parts chopped in
            Freeview.

            (I think there may be something funny about
            this, as the recon-all does like the T1 output
            form Mriconverter)

            HENCE I tried use the output of eddycorrect
            from FSL (which I already run for other thing)
            Then I created a new folder where i placed the
            output of FSL eddycorrect and in the
            configuration file I did
            (i)  set dcmlist =
            (fsleddycorrectoutput.nii.gz)
            (ii) turned 'set doeddy = 0'

            then run it
            trac-all -c traculatest.txt -prep -log
            trac_from_fsleddy


            it seemed to complete without errors (log
            attached)n and I checked the preprocessing
            outputs in Freeview (FA, masks and
            aparc+asegs) and all seemed
            fine.

            However when I attempt the next stage in
            trac-all
            i.e. trac-all -c traculatest.txt -bedp -log
            trac_from_fsleddy_bedp
            it fails saying the following
            /usr/local/freesurfer/bin/bedpostx_mgh: 131:
            /usr/local/freesurfer/bin/bedpostx_mgh: Syntax
            error: "(" unexpected


            the log is also attached.

            any advise appreciated!

            cheers
            ds
            http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/people/d.soto/
            http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/people/d.soto/
            On 09/08/13 14:02, Anastasia Yendiki wrote:

                  Why are you converting from .nii
                  to .mnc? Why are you not using the
                  .nii directly?

                  On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, David Soto
                  wrote:

                        hi - thanks for the
                        feedback

                        weirdly, the nii2mnc
                        transform of the
                        diffusion
                        data falters, I get a
                        part of the brain
                        chopped
                        have no idea why this
                        is the case, as it
                        worked fine
                        before for the T1 for
                        recon-all...I am using
                        Ubuntu 12.04

                        anyway am trying to
                        sort this out now, if
                        you have any
                        advise that would much
                        appreciated!!
                        cheers
                        ds


                        http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/people/d.soto/
                        On 08/08/13 17:03,
                        Anastasia Yendiki
                        wrote:

                              Hi David -
                              The fact
                              that it's
                              taking so
                              many tries
                              to
                              initialize
                              the left
                              ILF tells
                              me that
                              something
                              has gone
                              wrong with
                              the data,
                              either
                              with the
                              T1 to DWI
                              registration,
                              or with
                              the mask,
                              or
                              something
                              like that.
                              Have you
                              looked at
                              any of the
                              output
                              files of
                              the
                              pre-processing?
                              The FA
                              map, the
                              aparc+aseg,
                              etc?

                              a.y

                              On Wed, 7
                              Aug 2013,
                              Soto,
                              David
                              wrote:

                                    Hi
                                    Anastasia,
                                    I
                                    checked
                                    the
                                    becs
                                    and
                                    bvals
                                    files,
                                    there
                                    was
                                    a
                                    bug
                                    in
                                    the
                                    transposition
                                    of
                                    the
                                    columns
                                    into
                                    3
                                    rows
                                    in
                                    the
                                    bvecs.
                                    But
                                    i
                                    still
                                    have
                                    problems..
                                    I
                                    rerun
                                    trac-all
                                    -prep
                                    and
                                    seemed
                                    fine
                                    but
                                    ended
                                    with
                                    a
                                    Segmentation
                                    fault
                                    (core
                                    dumped)
                                    which
                                    however
                                    is
                                    not
                                    present
                                    in
                                    the
                                    last
                                    line
                                    of
                                    the
                                    trac-all.log
                                    (Attached).
                                    Writing
                                    output
                                    files
                                    
to/home/dsoto/Documents/fmri/rsdtianawmgui/02ST/dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS_avg33_mn
                                    i_bbr_*
                                    Writing
                                    spline
                                    volume
                                    
to/home/dsoto/Documents/fmri/rsdtianawmgui/02ST/dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS_avg33_mn
                                    i_bbr_cpts_5.nii.gz
                                    Segmentation
                                    fault
                                    (core
                                    dumped)
                                    Just
                                    in
                                    case
                                    I
                                    tried
                                    trac-all
                                    -bedp
                                    complains
                                    like
                                    these
                                    below,
                                    any
                                    advise
                                    appreciated,
                                    cheers
                                    -
                                    ds
                                    
/home/dsoto/Documents/fmri/rsdtianawmgui/02ST/diffree/tracula02ST.txt
                                    -bedp
                                    INFO:
                                    SUBJECTS_DIR
                                    is
                                    /home/dsoto/Documents/fmri/rsdtianawmgui
                                    INFO:
                                    Diffusion
                                    root
                                    is
                                    /home/dsoto/Documents/fmri/rsdtianawmgui
                                    Actual
                                    FREESURFER_HOME
                                    /usr/local/freesurfer
                                    WARN:
                                    Running
                                    FSL's
                                    bedbost
                                    locally
                                    -
                                    this
                                    might
                                    take
                                    a
                                    while
                                    WARN:
                                    It
                                    is
                                    recommended
                                    to
                                    run
                                    this
                                    step
                                    on
                                    a
                                    cluster
                                    bedpostx_mgh
                                    -n
                                    2
                                    
/home/dsoto/Documents/fmri/rsdtianawmgui/02ST/dmri
                                    /usr/local/freesurfer/bin/bedpostx_mgh:
                                    131:
                                    /usr/local/freesurfer/bin/bedpostx_mgh:
                                    Syntax
                                    error:
                                    "("
                                    unexpected
                                    
http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/people/d.soto/

                                    ________________________________________
                                    From:
                                    Anastasia
                                    Yendiki
                                    [ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
                                    Sent:
                                    07
                                    August
                                    2013
                                    17:22
                                    To:
                                    Soto,
                                    David
                                    Cc:
                                    freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
                                    Subject:
                                    RE:
                                    [Freesurfer] 
                                    trac-all
                                    inquiry

                                    Hi
                                    David
                                    -
                                    Every
                                    time
                                    you
                                    run
                                    trac-all,
                                    the
                                    results
                                    get
                                    appended
                                    to
                                    this
                                    file,
                                    so
                                    you
                                    need
                                    to
                                    look
                                    for
                                    error
                                    messages
                                    only
                                    in
                                    the
                                    more
                                    recent
                                    invocation
                                    of
                                    trac-all.
                                    The
                                    first
                                    error
                                    there
                                    seems
                                    to
                                    be:


                                    Error:
                                    bvecs
                                    and
                                    bvals
                                    don't
                                    have
                                    the
                                    same
                                    number
                                    of
                                    entries

                                    Do
                                    you
                                    have
                                    the
                                    same
                                    number
                                    of
                                    b-values
                                    and
                                    gradient
                                    vectors
                                    and
                                    volumes
                                    in
                                    your
                                    DWI
                                    series?

                                    a.y

                                    On
                                    Tue,
                                    6
                                    Aug
                                    2013,
                                    Soto,
                                    David
                                    wrote:

                                          hi

                                          I
                                          upgraded
                                          to
                                          FS
                                          5.3
                                          but
                                          still
                                          encountering
                                          issues
                                          with
                                          trac-all
                                          prep.

                                          The
                                          log
                                          is
                                          attached,
                                          things
                                          I
                                          noted
                                          after
                                          inspecting
                                          it

                                          1)
                                          INFO:
                                          FreeSurfer
                                          build
                                          stamps
                                          do
                                          not
                                          match
                                          Subject
                                          Stamp:
                                          
freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.1.0
                                          Current
                                          Stamp:
                                          
freesurfer-Linux-centos4_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.3.0

                                          2)
                                          Error:
                                          input
                                          image
                                          
/home/dsoto/Documents/fmri/rsdtianawmgui/02ST/dmri/lowb
                                          not
                                          valid
                                          3)
                                          Image
                                          Exception
                                          :
                                          #22
                                          ::
                                          ERROR:
                                          Could
                                          not
                                          open
                                          image
                                          
/home/dsoto/Documents/fmri/rsdtianawmgui/02ST/dmri/lowb_brain
                                          4)
                                          Image
                                          Exception
                                          :
                                          #22
                                          ::
                                          ERROR:
                                          Could
                                          not
                                          open
                                          image
                                          
/home/dsoto/Documents/fmri/rsdtianawmgui/02ST/dlabel/diff/White-Matter++.
                                          5)
                                          ERROR:
                                          Could
                                          not
                                          read
                                          
/home/dsoto/Documents/fmri/rsdtianawmgui/02ST/dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz
                                          but
                                          despite
                                          all
                                          this
                                          it
                                          says:
                                          trac-preproc
                                          finished
                                          without
                                          error
                                          at
                                          Tue
                                          Aug
                                          6
                                          21:27:30
                                          BST
                                          2013

                                          thanks
                                          for
                                          your
                                          help

                                          cheers
                                          ds

                                          
http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/people/d.soto/




                                          
________________________________________
                                          From:
                                          Anastasia
                                          Yendiki
                                          [ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
                                          Sent:
                                          06
                                          August
                                          2013
                                          19:30
                                          To:
                                          Soto,
                                          David
                                          Cc:
                                          freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
                                          Subject:
                                          RE:
                                          [Freesurfer] 
                                          trac-all
                                          inquiry

                                          I
                                          see,
                                          you're
                                          using
                                          the
                                          old
                                          version
                                          of
                                          tracula
                                          (from
                                          freesurfer
                                          5.1).
                                          In
                                          that
                                          version,
                                          you
                                          had
                                          to
                                          define
                                          the
                                          number
                                          of
                                          low-b
                                          images
                                          in
                                          the
                                          configuration
                                          file.
                                          I
                                          strongly
                                          recommend
                                          updating
                                          to
                                          freesurfer
                                          5.3.
                                          A
                                          lot
                                          of
                                          things
                                          have
                                          improved
                                          in
                                          tracula
                                          since
                                          then.

                                          Also,
                                          in
                                          the
                                          future
                                          please
                                          attach
                                          any
                                          log
                                          files
                                          as
                                          separate
                                          attachments
                                          instead
                                          of
                                          pasting
                                          them
                                          into
                                          the
                                          body
                                          of
                                          your
                                          email
                                          -
                                          this
                                          causes
                                          the
                                          body
                                          of
                                          the
                                          email
                                          to
                                          exceed
                                          the
                                          limit
                                          allowable
                                          on
                                          the
                                          list.

                                          Thanks,
                                          a.y


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