Hi  Jon,

The commands look OK. The files

lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgz

are the individual smoothed lgi files (one for each time point) and should not be in the base, only in the .long. directories, so everything is OK. When running qdec, you can analyze the change or the average of this across subjects. You should have those files in the base, e.g.
lh.long.pial_lgi-pc1.fwhm15.fsaverage.mgh
for the percent change. This is what you can compare cross sectionally.
For that you have to edit the $SUBJECTS_DIR/qdec/.Qdecrc file and add these lines:
MEASURE1 = long.pial_lgi-pc1
MEASURE2 = long.pial_lgi-spc
MEASURE3 = long.pial_lgi-rate
MEASURE4 = long.pial_lgi-avg

(you only need to add the ones you actually want to use in qdec).

You can then run qdec and do all kinds of analysis on any of those files and other variables from the qdec table:

qdec --table ./qdec/cross.qdec.table.dat

You will see in the /Design/ tab, that you can now select e.g. long.thickness-rate under /Measure/ as the dependent variable.

See also:
http://freesurfer.net/fswiki/LongitudinalTwoStageModel
The two stage model
1. runs an analysis on a subject level to compute e.g. percent change of some measure, usually thickness 2. runs a group analysis as a second stage, using the change measures from step 1.
You finished stage 1. Good luck with stage 2 :-).
Martin



Best, Martin


On 05/19/2014 03:53 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
Hi freesurfer experts

I am trying to analyze the longitudinal effects on LGI.   I've run all my 
subject's through the longitudinal processing stream.

I set-up my qdec dat file:

fsid            fsid-base       years
100674-0107     100674_base     1.6
100674-0408     100674_base     2.8
100674-0605     100674_base     0
100712-0505     100712_base     0
100712-0708     100712_base     3.2
100712-1006     100712_base     1.4
100724-0605     100724_base     0
100724-0808     100724_base     3.2
100724-1206     100724_base     1.5
100733-0106     100733_base     0
100733-0507     100733_base     1.3
100733-1008     100733_base     2.8

I ran long_mris_slopse for both hemispheres:

long_mris_slopes --qdec ./UCSD_subj_NIDA_LGI.qdec.dat --meas pial_lgi --hemi lh 
--do-avg --do-rate --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label --time years 
--qcache fsaverage --sd /Studies/UCSDsubjects-NIDA/Cluster_Proc

long_mris_slopes --qdec ./UCSD_subj_NIDA_LGI.qdec.dat --meas pial_lgi --hemi rh 
--do-avg --do-rate --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label --time years 
--qcache fsaverage --sd /Studies/UCSDsubjects-NIDA/Cluster_Proc

i also ran long_qdec_table

long_qdec_table --qdec ./UCSD_subj_NIDA_LGI.qdec.dat --cross --out 
./qdec/cross.qdec.table.dat


then I ran qdec:

qdec --table ./qdec/cross.qdec.table.dat

I specified pial_lgi as the Measure, and selected years as the covariate
when I press Analyze, I get the following error:
Error in Analyze: Couldn't open 
100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgz or mgh file



when looking in the directories, I have lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  files 
in the  100674-0107.long.100674_base directories:

\100674-0107.long.100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh      
100724-0605.long.100724_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0107.long.100674_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh      
100724-0605.long.100724_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0408.long.100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh      
100724-0808.long.100724_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0408.long.100674_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh      
100724-0808.long.100724_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0605.long.100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh      
100724-1206.long.100724_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0605.long.100674_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh      
100724-1206.long.100724_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-0505.long.100712_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh      
100733-0106.long.100733_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-0505.long.100712_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh      
100733-0106.long.100733_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-0708.long.100712_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh      
100733-0507.long.100733_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-0708.long.100712_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh      
100733-0507.long.100733_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-1006.long.100712_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh      
100733-1008.long.100733_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-1006.long.100712_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh      
100733-1008.long.100733_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh


but not in the following directories
100674_base/surf
100712_base/surf
100724_base/surf
100733_base/surf


How can I fix this?

Jon


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