Hi Martin, 

thanks for your reply.
I have created a qdec file with the fsidtp1.long.fsid.base as first column and 
specified the long directories with /path_to_data/*.long.*. And each subject 
has a ?h.thickness file from the recon-process. However, Qdec is asking for a 
very specific file ?h.thickness.fwhm10.nameoftemplate.mgz or .mgh (even when I 
pick 0 smoothing).

If I understand correctly, that is the file that I get when running the 
mris_slope command. But you said I wouldn't need that. Is there a way to get 
these files for a cross-sectional analysis of the *.long.*.base timepoints? 

My qdec file currently looks like this:

fsid group sex age (in months) ... (behavioral measures)
XXXX_1.long.XXXX.base 1 0 52 ... 
YYYY_1.long.YYYY.base 2 1 48 ...
...

Thank you,
Clara

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Von: "mreuter" <mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
An: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 18:14:40
Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] correlations with longitudinal data

Hi Clara,

you would do the analysis of a single time point the same way you'd run 
a regular glm or qdec analysis on cross sectional data. You cannot use 
LME as that is for longitudinal data (more than 1 time point per 
subject, at least for most subjects). Also the two stage model, first 
reduces to multiple measures in each subject to a single measure (slope 
of the linear fit). It would not be the right tool for selecting a 
single time point.

You could for example create a qdec table with the first row  fsid
timepoint1.long.base
for each subject and then use qdec.

If you want to make use of the improved data from the longitudinal image 
processing, you need to specify the *.long.base directories, so that 
data is taken from there.

Good luck, Martin

On 12/08/2015 04:24 AM, Clara Kühn wrote:
> Dear FreeSurfer experts,
>
> I have a subsample of my longitudinal data with 3 scans per subjects fully 
> preprocessed and would like to start with some simple correlations of 
> thickness at time 1 with behavioral measures and other factors like age.
>
> Is there a way to do that with LME (since I was planning on using that as a 
> method of choice) or is it possible to do that with QDEC? I've prepared my 
> data for both methods (LME and linear two stage model) but if I use the 
> cross.qdec.table derived from the longitudinal data, it uses the registered 
> and smoothed (with mris_slopes) surfaces from the Base, right?
> So, I would like to know how I can analyzse a single time point within my 
> longitudinal design.
>
> Cheers,
> Clara
>
>

-- 
Martin Reuter, PhD
Assistant Professor of Radiology, Harvard Medical School
Assistant Professor of Neurology, Harvard Medical School
A.A.Martinos Center for Biomedical Imaging
Massachusetts General Hospital
Research Affiliate, CSAIL, MIT
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