Hi Zhivago

tksurfer is deprecated and uses one of the methods available in mri_vol2surf, so our advice would be to use vol2surf

cheers
Bruce
On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Zhivago wrote:

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Hi,

From whatever I read, there seem to be 2 ways for overlaying activation maps
on surfaces.

1) automatic/manual registration of activation volume to orig.mgz and usage
of mri_vol2surf to create the overlay, say ?h.sig.mgh, which can then be
overlaid on an inflated surface in freeview or tksurfer using the
register.dat.

2) automatic/manual registration of activation volume to orig.mgz and
overlay the activation volume on the inflated surface in tksurfer using the
register.dat

I want to know if both these are valid methods and if so, what are the pros
and cons of each.  Seems like mri_vol2surf lets us decide what part of the
volume should be projected on the surface using the projfac arguments.  But
the direct volume overlay in tksurfer doesn't provide that option.  In that
case what part of the volume is projected on to the surface?

Thanks,
Zhivago...

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Zhivago <zhiva...@gmail.com> wrote:
      Thanks Bruce!  Appreciate all the help,

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Bruce Fischl
<fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
      1) This is up to you. Jon Polimeni had a nice paper
      describing the trade-off between accurately representing
      the local neural response (which is best at the white
      border) and statistical power (which is best nearer the
      pial surface).

      2) This is also up to you.Read the help in mri_vol2surf.
      e.g.:

      mri_vol2surf --help
      .
      .
      .
         --projfrac-avg min max del : average along normal

      3) it is the way that we support.

      cheers
      Bruce


      On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, Zhivago wrote:

            Hey Bruce,

            Thank you very much for the responses!  Had
            posted a couple of more
            questions, but looks like it hasn't gone
            across.  Will really appreciate it
            if you can provide some answers to these.

            1) The mri_vol2surf is used to project the
            activations from the GM onto an
            inflated surface, which is usually the
            inflated smoothwm surface output from
            reconall.  Will it be more accurate to use the
            inflated version of the
            intermediate surface, like halfway between the
            white and pial matter?  Will
            it make any kind of sense?

            2) When mri_vol2surf projects a volume to a
            surface, does it average the
            activation values of voxels along the cortical
            depth or sum it?  What really
            happens beneath?  Any amount of insight will
            be helpful.

            3) Is mri_vol2surf the only way to view
            activation maps on inflated surfaces
            or any surface?

            Cheers,
            Zhivago...

            On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Bruce Fischl
            <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
            wrote:
                  Hi Zhivago

                  1) You can project from inside the
            ?h.white surface if
                  projfrac<0 and outside pial if
            projfrac>1. <<0 and >>1 won't
                  make much sense though as it starts to
            get arbitrary.

                  2) The default projfrac, as documented
            in the -help response, is
                  0.

                  3) Yes, 0-->white matter boundary. 1-->
            pial boundary.

                  4) The .mgh/.mgz file create by vol2surf
            is an nvertices x 1 x 1
                  vector, which is a scalar field over the
            surface.

                  cheers
                  Bruce



                  On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, Zhivago wrote:

                        Hi,


                        I do not have a good understanding
            of the
                        mri_vol2surf command.

                        1) Can this only project the part
            of the volume that
                        lies between the white
                        & pial matter?
                        2) What is the default projection
            parameter that it
                        uses?
                        3) Does projection always start
            from the white
                        matter, i.e. is 0 the white
                        matter surface?
                        4) What is the nature of the mgh
            file that is
                        created by:
                        mri_vol2surf --src
            mri/spmT_0002.img --regheader
                        s04  --interp nearest
                        --hemi lh --o lh.sig.mgh

                        Thanks,
                        Zhivago...


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