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Hi,

Sorry for coming back to this, but I'm still confused about the issue of 
having unbalanced classes. I thought that I could not remove the class 
as you suggested since this would mean that the contrast positive and 
negative values would no longer add up to 0.  For instance if I remove 
only class "patient_centre2_female", then my contrast would have 11 (-1) 
and 12 (1) as opposed to 12 and 12. Could you please clarify?

Thanks again,
Colleen


On 2018-04-30 14:43, C.P.E. Rollins wrote:
> I thought that I could not remove the class since this would mean that
> the contrast positive and negative values would no longer add up to 0.
> For instance if I remove only class "patient_centre2_female", then my
> contrast would have 11 (-1) and 12 (1) as opposed to 12 and 12. Could
> you please clarify?
> 
> Thanks again,
> Colleen
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] FSGD design for multi-centre study
> Date: 2018-04-20 11:19
> From: "C.P.E. Rollins" <cp...@cam.ac.uk>
> To: Freesurfer <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
> 
> Thanks a lot for the explanation. The issue is that I don't think
> Freesurfer will run a design for which there are no subjects for a
> given class. So if I keep the classes (24 classes since 6 centres x 2
> gender x 2 groups (patient vs. control), and have the contrast with 12
> (-1) and 12 (1),
> -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0
> I get the error:
> --------------------------------
> ERROR: matrix is ill-conditioned or badly scaled, condno = 1e+08
> --------------------------------
> Possible problem with experimental design:
> Check for duplicate entries and/or lack of range of
> continuous variables within a class.
> 
> I'm assuming this is because there are no participants in, for
> example, patient_centre2_female
> Is there any way to get around this issue, or should I remove those
> centres from my analysis (since I can't only remove
> "patient_centre2_female", as this would make the contrast unbalanced
> (positives and negatives would not add to the same number). I hope
> this was clear but please let me know if it was not.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Colleen

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