Hi Yi-Leng

can you upload the worst subject to our ftp site (the entire gzipped and tarred subject dir please).

cheers
Bruce
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019, Yi Leng Fung wrote:


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Hello Bruce, 

On all four of our studies, the labels and the annot look similar in the sense 
that almost the entire
rh.perirhinal_exvivo.thresh.label was contained within the 
rh.entorhinal_exvivo.thresh.label (screenshot of the
right hemisphere with labels and annot attached for your reference). The 
resulting annot label shows an extremely
under-represented perirhinal on the right hemispheres. The left hemispheres did 
not show such a dramatic overlap.

Cheers,
Yi-Leng


On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 3:44 PM Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
Do the labels look better than the annot?

On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:15 PM, Yi Leng Fung <yf...@student.unimelb.edu.au> wrote:

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      Hello FreeSurfer team,

Thank you for providing the recon-all patch. We have applied this to four 
studies and have seen a
notable difference between in the representation of entorhinal over perirhinal 
on the right hemisphere
labelling on each analysis ran. The left hemisphere appears to have less 
overlap.

I have attached a screenshot of both hemispheres to demonstrate. Would really 
appreciate any feedback.
Thanks!

Cheers,
Yi-Leng


On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 3:11 AM Hoopes, Andrew <ahoo...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

      Hi Yi Leng, there’s a recon-all patch for 6.0 at
      
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/6.0.0-patch/recon-all. 
You can
      update it with:

       

      cd ${FREESURFER_HOME}/bin

      mv recon-all recon-all.backup

      curl 
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/6.0.0-patch/recon-all -o
      recon-all

      chmod +x recon-all

       

      Let us know if that works!

       

      thanks

      Andrew

       

      From: <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Yi Leng Fung
      <yf...@student.unimelb.edu.au>
      Reply-To: FS Help <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
      Date: Monday, February 4, 2019 at 9:17 PM
      To: FS Help <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
      Cc: Jean Augustinack <j...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
      Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Mismatch between ?h.BA.thresh.annot and
      ?h.entorhinal.thresh.label/?h.perirhinal.thresh.label

 

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Thank you!

 

Cheers,

Yi Leng

 

 

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

      thanks. It is almost certainly a bug in recon-all. I'm testing a fix
      tomorrow and hopefully we can have one out to you (and the rest of the
      list) by tomorrow.

      Sorry!
      Bruce
      On Tue, 5 Feb 2019, Yi Leng Fung wrote:

      >
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      >
      > [3a1715320c6fbab489126e656ad6e765d6e0a6ee.png?u=328927]
      > Hello Bruce,
      >
      > Yep, the exvivo entorhinal thresh label overlay on the perirhinal 
annotation. I
      have attached a screenshot of it
      > for your reference.
      >
      > Cheers,
      > Yi-Leng
      >
      >
      > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 12:31 PM Bruce Fischl 
<fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
      >       Hi Yi-Leng
      >
      >       eek! Can you verify that the lh.entorhinal_exvivo.thresh.label is
      >       correct? Does it overlay on the perirhinal annotation?
      >
      >       thanks
      >       Bruce
      >
      >       On Tue, 5 Feb 2019,
      >       Yi Leng Fung wrote:
      >
      >       >
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      >       >
      >       > [3f1a37b0d4514e4a90a5d3340afcefe6c789830e.png?u=328927]
      >       > Hello All,
      >       >
      >       > Here it is, both are from bert. 
      >       >
      >       > Thank you for looking into this.
      >       >
      >       > Cheers,
      >       > Yi-Leng
      >       >
      >       > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 7:47 AM Bruce Fischl 
<fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
      wrote:
      >       >       Hi Yi-Leng
      >       >
      >       >       can you send us an image of the parcellaton on an 
inflated surface so
      we
      >       >       can see?
      >       >
      >       >       thanks
      >       >       Bruce
      >       >
      >       >
      >       >       On Tue, 5 Feb 2019, Yi Leng Fung wrote:
      >       >
      >       >       >
      >       >       >         External Email - Use Caution        
      >       >       >
      >       >       > Hello Bruce,
      >       >       > Thank you very much for your quick response. 
      >       >       >
      >       >       > I do have another point of confusion regarding the 
BA.thresh.annot
      file. When visualised in
      >       Freeview
      >       >       (using Bert as
      >       >       > the example), the BA.thresh annotation file labelled 
the medially
      located structure as the
      >       perirhinal
      >       >       cortex and
      >       >       > the laterally located structure as the entorhinal 
cortex. 
      >       >       >
      >       >       > I find that quite puzzling as I understand their 
relative
      anatomical location to be the
      >       reverse; I
      >       >       would really
      >       >       > appreciate it if you could clarify why it is labelled 
as such in
      the annot file? 
      >       >       >
      >       >       > Again, thank you for your time in helping me understand 
this. 
      >       >       >
      >       >       > Cheers, 
      >       >       > Yi-Leng
      >       >       >
      >       >       >
      >       >       > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 04:26 Bruce Fischl 
<fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
      wrote:
      >       >       >       Hi Yi-Leng
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       the annot file contains the label with the max 
p-value at
      each location.
      >       >       >       The thresholded .label files are computed to have 
the surface
      area that
      >       >       >       matches the average of the training labels, so 
they will not
      be the same.
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       cheers
      >       >       >       Bruce
      >       >       >
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       On
      >       >       >       Tue, 5 Feb 2019, Yi Leng Fung wrote:
      >       >       >
      >       >       >       >
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      >       >       >       >
      >       >       >       > Dear FreeSurfer Developers,
      >       >       >       >
      >       >       >       > Prior to extracting the gray volume numbers of 
the
      entorhinal and perirhinal cortex
      >       from
      >       >       >       > ?h.BA_exvivo.thresh.stats file, I was examining 
the
      entorhinal and perirhinal cortex
      >       on the
      >       >       >       > ?h.BA.thresh.annot on Freeview. However, I 
noted that their
      locations on the annot
      >       file did
      >       >       not
      >       >       >       > correspond to the (non-overlapping) locations 
indicated
      by ?h.entorhinal.thresh.label
      >       and
      >       >       >       > ?h.perirhinal.thresh.label. 
      >       >       >       >
      >       >       >       > I have also loaded the annot files and label 
files from the
      fully recon-ed subject
      >       named
      >       >       "bert" on
      >       >       >       > Freeview and observed the same mismatch in the 
labeling. I
      am curious why this might
      >       be the
      >       >       case.
      >       >       >       >
      >       >       >       > I have searched the archive and have not been 
able to find
      any similar queries on
      >       this, hence
      >       >       it
      >       >       >       would be
      >       >       >       > of tremendous help if someone could clarify this
      observation. If it is of interest, I
      >       am
      >       >       running
      >       >       >       > 
freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-pub-v6.0.0 on Ubuntu
      16.04.
      >       >       >       >
      >       >       >       > Thank you for your assistance and I look 
forward to hearing
      from you.
      >       >       >       >
      >       >       >       > Best regards,
      >       >       >       > Yi-Leng
      >       >       >       >
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