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Ok thanks a lot, that was helpful!


Best,


Joëlle

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Yes, looks like small registration errors. I don't think it is problematic. Any 
vertex where even a single subject has a 0 should be masked out of the final 
analysis.

On 12/3/2019 1:42 PM, Joëlle Ismay Rosanne Van Der Molen wrote:

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Hi Douglas,

Thank you for your quick response.

Regarding the individual thickness mgh, it was a simple thresholding issue in 
the end (values were set to min 2), it looks now fine so this issue is resolved.

About my initial first question concerning the presence of non-zero values in 
some areas where a majority of subjects have zeros, I computed the sum of 
subjects with a non-zero value per vertex and plotted this as an overlay in 
tksurfer, in order to better see the locations of these occurrences. (see files 
attached). I mainly see a small gradient around the medial temporal area. Could 
this indeed be due to small registration errors? Is this problematic? If yes, 
how to solve it?

Thank you,

Best regards,

Joëlle

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On 12/2/2019 7:12 PM, Joëlle Ismay Rosanne Van Der Molen wrote:

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Dear Freesurfer experts,


After running the -qcache option to extract thickness data for every subject, I 
tried pulling all the data together in order to get a matrix of subjects x 
vertices containing thickness data (for a given hemisphere) in all vertices of 
the brain.


I noticed that for some small areas, particularly medial temporal, thickness 
data equals to 0 for some subjects, and has values for other subjects. May this 
be of concern? If so, would you have any idea why this is happening?

It is hard to say without seeing the locations. There are sometimes places on 
the edge of the medial wall where there are some small errors in registration 
and so things don't line up perfectly. Could that be it?


Another, perhaps related question is: when I try to use a subject's individual 
thickness mgh as an overlay in tksurfer, I obtain the outputs attached to this 
email (I am not modifying any overlay min max or threshold values). I am 
wondering if these grey zones in the map (around occipital and parietal areas 
specifically; not for subcortical areas) are to be expected, or if they may 
reflect some processing problem? If so, what problem could it be?

I would say that those images look problematic. Is that the individual's 
surface or is it after mapping to fsaverage? In any event, you should look at 
the surfaces overlaid on the volume to see if the thickness is 0.


Thank you in advance for your help,


Best regards,


Joëlle van der Molen





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