Sorry, I don't know what else to tell you.

On 2/28/2020 9:59 AM, CiRong Liu wrote:

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Hi, Douglas,


Thank you for your reply.


I tried adding -max XXX.

If I set the "-max 5" as the default values, the mris_mask_surfaces would finish running.


However, if I set the "-max" more than 5, the mris_mask_surfaces would crash during the running - *Segmentation fault (core dumped).*

*This is my computer config:*

*1) Freesurfer Version - *freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-pub-v6.0.0-2beb96c

2) Platform: Linux Mint 19.2

3) uname -a: Linux  4.15.0-60-generic #67-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 22 16:55:30 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


*Here is the error msg (at the end)for example:*

$mris_make_surfaces -max 10 -max_csf 0.1 -min_gray_at_csf_border 1 -orig_wm  orig -noaseg  -noaparc  -T1 ceb_sm marmosetceb_v2 rh

using max_thickness = 10.0

reading original vertex positions from orig

not using aseg volume to prevent surfaces crossing the midline

not using aparc to prevent surfaces crossing the midline

using ceb_sm as T1 volume...

$Id: mris_make_surfaces.c,v 1.164.2.4 2016/12/13 22:26:32 zkaufman Exp $

$Id: mrisurf.c,v 1.781.2.6 2016/12/27 16:47:14 zkaufman Exp $

reading volume /home/cirong/bin/freesurfer/subjects/marmosetceb_v2/mri/filled.mgz...

reading volume /home/cirong/bin/freesurfer/subjects/marmosetceb_v2/mri/ceb_sm.mgz...

resampling filled volume to be in voxel register with T1

reading volume /home/cirong/bin/freesurfer/subjects/marmosetceb_v2/mri/wm.mgz...

changing type of input wm volume to UCHAR...

resampling wm volume to be in voxel register with T1

0 bright wm thresholded.

0 bright non-wm voxels segmented.

reading original surface position from /home/cirong/bin/freesurfer/subjects/marmosetceb_v2/surf/rh.orig...

computing class statistics...

border white:    170215 voxels (0.34%)

border gray      211849 voxels (0.42%)

WM (79.0): 80.8 +- 7.5 [70.0 --> 106.0]

GM (71.0) : 71.9 +- 8.9 [30.0 --> 105.0]

using class modes intead of means, discounting robust sigmas....

intensity peaks found at WM=70+-10.4, GM=69+-10.4

setting MIN_GRAY_AT_WHITE_BORDER to 60.1 (was 70)

setting MAX_BORDER_WHITE to 77.5 (was 105)

setting MIN_BORDER_WHITE to 69.0 (was 85)

setting MAX_CSF to 8.0 (was 40)

setting MAX_GRAY to 62.5 (was 95)

setting MAX_GRAY_AT_CSF_BORDER to 60.1 (was 75)

setting MIN_GRAY_AT_CSF_BORDER to 8.0 (was 40)

mean inside = 74.8, mean outside = 73.4

smoothing surface for 5 iterations...

repositioning cortical surface to gray/white boundary

smoothing T1 volume with sigma = 2.000

vertex spacing 0.87 +- 0.21 (0.01-->1.75) (max @ vno 190205 --> 190741)

face area 0.31 +- 0.12 (0.00-->0.93)

mean border=73.1, 45600 (45600) missing vertices, mean dist 2.1 [3.9 (%15.7)->2.6 (%84.3))]

%31 local maxima, %44 large gradients and % 2 min vals, 0 gradients ignored

mean absolute distance = 2.85 +- 2.92

7642 vertices more than 2 sigmas from mean.

averaging target values for 5 iterations...

tol=1.0e-04, sigma=2.0, host=unkno, nav=4, nbrs=2, l_repulse=5.000, l_tspring=1.000, l_nspring=0.500, l_intensity=0.200, l_curv=1.000

mom=0.00, dt=0.50

complete_dist_mat 0

rms 0

smooth_averages 0

remove_neg 0

ico_order 0

which_surface 0

target_radius 0.000000

nfields 0

scale 0.000000

desired_rms_height 0.000000

momentum 0.000000

nbhd_size 0

max_nbrs 0

niterations 25

nsurfaces 0

SURFACES 3

flags 0 (0)

use curv 0

no sulc 0

no rigid align 0

mris->nsize 2

mris->hemisphere 1

randomSeed 0

000: dt: 0.0000, sse=2428827.0, rms=6.800

001: dt: 0.5000, sse=2228267.0, rms=6.217 (8.575%)

002: dt: 0.5000, sse=2028263.5, rms=5.645 (9.199%)

003: dt: 0.5000, sse=1886400.0, rms=5.096 (9.731%)

004: dt: 0.5000, sse=1814327.0, rms=4.583 (10.072%)

005: dt: 0.5000, sse=1721364.9, rms=4.121 (10.063%)

006: dt: 0.5000, sse=1625707.9, rms=3.724 (9.648%)

007: dt: 0.5000, sse=1655070.8, rms=3.394 (8.851%)

008: dt: 0.5000, sse=1652526.4, rms=3.136 (7.621%)

009: dt: 0.5000, sse=1610117.9, rms=2.940 (6.224%)

010: dt: 0.5000, sse=1561510.9, rms=2.795 (4.945%)

011: dt: 0.5000, sse=1554297.9, rms=2.681 (4.083%)

012: dt: 0.5000, sse=1584733.6, rms=2.592 (3.329%)

013: dt: 0.5000, sse=1583861.1, rms=2.517 (2.880%)

014: dt: 0.5000, sse=1546283.4, rms=2.452 (2.578%)

015: dt: 0.5000, sse=1573124.0, rms=2.396 (2.291%)

016: dt: 0.5000, sse=1560157.1, rms=2.343 (2.203%)

rms = 2.30, time step reduction 1 of 3 to 0.250...

017: dt: 0.5000, sse=1584955.1, rms=2.296 (2.021%)

rms = 2.27, time step reduction 2 of 3 to 0.125...

018: dt: 0.2500, sse=1413241.2, rms=2.266 (1.279%)

rms = 2.25, time step reduction 3 of 3 to 0.062...

019: dt: 0.1250, sse=1348002.0, rms=2.251 (0.692%)

positioning took 2.0 minutes

smoothing T1 volume with sigma = 1.000

vertex spacing 0.81 +- 0.26 (0.02-->3.05) (max @ vno 1015 --> 1374)

face area 0.31 +- 0.17 (0.00-->2.54)

mean border=73.2, 37029 (33580) missing vertices, mean dist -0.4 [1.3 (%54.3)->0.9 (%45.7))]

%45 local maxima, %34 large gradients and % 3 min vals, 0 gradients ignored

mean absolute distance = 1.13 +- 2.38

7372 vertices more than 2 sigmas from mean.

averaging target values for 5 iterations...

tol=1.0e-04, sigma=1.0, host=unkno, nav=2, nbrs=2, l_repulse=5.000, l_tspring=1.000, l_nspring=0.500, l_intensity=0.200, l_curv=1.000

mom=0.00, dt=0.50

000: dt: 0.0000, sse=1247019.2, rms=2.658

020: dt: 0.5000, sse=1660886.4, rms=2.513 (5.452%)

021: dt: 0.5000, sse=1696660.5, rms=2.429 (3.370%)

022: dt: 0.5000, sse=1582424.1, rms=2.353 (3.102%)

023: dt: 0.5000, sse=1592837.6, rms=2.296 (2.425%)

024: dt: 0.5000, sse=1575169.2, rms=2.246 (2.202%)

rms = 2.20, time step reduction 1 of 3 to 0.250...

025: dt: 0.5000, sse=1552572.5, rms=2.202 (1.924%)

rms = 2.18, time step reduction 2 of 3 to 0.125...

026: dt: 0.2500, sse=1465932.9, rms=2.178 (1.103%)

rms = 2.16, time step reduction 3 of 3 to 0.062...

027: dt: 0.1250, sse=1308048.4, rms=2.165 (0.619%)

positioning took 0.9 minutes

smoothing T1 volume with sigma = 0.500

vertex spacing 0.80 +- 0.27 (0.03-->3.21) (max @ vno 1015 --> 1374)

face area 0.26 +- 0.15 (0.00-->2.57)

mean border=73.1, 36657 (30198) missing vertices, mean dist -0.2 [1.2 (%53.9)->0.9 (%46.1))]

%64 local maxima, %15 large gradients and % 2 min vals, 0 gradients ignored

mean absolute distance = 1.05 +- 1.90

5676 vertices more than 2 sigmas from mean.

averaging target values for 5 iterations...

tol=1.0e-04, sigma=0.5, host=unkno, nav=1, nbrs=2, l_repulse=5.000, l_tspring=1.000, l_nspring=0.500, l_intensity=0.200, l_curv=1.000

mom=0.00, dt=0.50

000: dt: 0.0000, sse=1326640.1, rms=2.462

028: dt: 0.5000, sse=1621191.5, rms=2.312 (6.099%)

029: dt: 0.5000, sse=1624567.6, rms=2.238 (3.187%)

030: dt: 0.5000, sse=1600156.1, rms=2.183 (2.467%)

rms = 2.14, time step reduction 1 of 3 to 0.250...

031: dt: 0.5000, sse=1617027.1, rms=2.144 (1.794%)

rms = 2.12, time step reduction 2 of 3 to 0.125...

032: dt: 0.2500, sse=1457184.9, rms=2.121 (1.087%)

rms = 2.11, time step reduction 3 of 3 to 0.062...

033: dt: 0.1250, sse=1341353.0, rms=2.109 (0.564%)

positioning took 0.7 minutes

smoothing T1 volume with sigma = 0.250

vertex spacing 0.79 +- 0.27 (0.03-->3.02) (max @ vno 166101 --> 167636)

face area 0.25 +- 0.14 (0.00-->2.52)

mean border=73.0, 36288 (28156) missing vertices, mean dist -0.2 [1.0 (%53.1)->0.8 (%46.9))]

%73 local maxima, % 7 large gradients and % 2 min vals, 0 gradients ignored

mean absolute distance = 0.93 +- 1.64

5026 vertices more than 2 sigmas from mean.

averaging target values for 5 iterations...

tol=1.0e-04, sigma=0.2, host=unkno, nav=0, nbrs=2, l_repulse=5.000, l_tspring=1.000, l_nspring=0.500, l_intensity=0.200, l_curv=1.000

mom=0.00, dt=0.50

000: dt: 0.0000, sse=1345812.6, rms=2.264

034: dt: 0.5000, sse=1665688.5, rms=2.172 (4.051%)

rms = 2.13, time step reduction 1 of 3 to 0.250...

035: dt: 0.5000, sse=1612717.9, rms=2.133 (1.821%)

rms = 2.11, time step reduction 2 of 3 to 0.125...

036: dt: 0.2500, sse=1435326.8, rms=2.109 (1.107%)

rms = 2.10, time step reduction 3 of 3 to 0.062...

037: dt: 0.1250, sse=1305283.9, rms=2.097 (0.555%)

positioning took 0.5 minutes

writing white matter surface to /home/cirong/bin/freesurfer/subjects/marmosetceb_v2/surf/rh.white...

writing smoothed curvature to rh.curv

writing curvature file /home/cirong/bin/freesurfer/subjects/marmosetceb_v2/surf/rh.curv

writing smoothed area to rh.area

writing curvature file /home/cirong/bin/freesurfer/subjects/marmosetceb_v2/surf/rh.area

vertex spacing 0.79 +- 0.27 (0.01-->3.24) (max @ vno 1015 --> 1374)

face area 0.24 +- 0.14 (0.00-->2.12)

smoothing surface for 5 iterations...

repositioning cortical surface to gray/csf boundary.

smoothing T1 volume with sigma = 2.000

mean border=46.6, 59907 (59907) missing vertices, mean dist 10.2 [0.0 (%0.0)->14.1 (%100.0))]

%23 local maxima, % 7 large gradients and %41 min vals, 5938 gradients ignored

averaging target values for 5 iterations...

perforing initial smooth deformation to move away from white surface

tol=1.0e-04, sigma=2.0, host=unkno, nav=16, nbrs=2, l_surf_repulse=1.000, l_tspring=1.000, l_nspring=0.500, l_intensity=0.200, l_curv=1.000

mom=0.00, dt=0.05

000: dt: 0.0000, sse=22236570.0, rms=27.443

001: dt: 0.0500, sse=21651240.0, rms=27.069 (1.363%)

002: dt: 0.0500, sse=21290688.0, rms=26.835 (0.862%)

003: dt: 0.0500, sse=21029676.0, rms=26.665 (0.635%)

004: dt: 0.0500, sse=20819052.0, rms=26.527 (0.519%)

005: dt: 0.0500, sse=20636676.0, rms=26.406 (0.454%)

006: dt: 0.0500, sse=20471550.0, rms=26.296 (0.415%)

007: dt: 0.0500, sse=20317400.0, rms=26.194 (0.391%)

008: dt: 0.0500, sse=20170454.0, rms=26.095 (0.375%)

009: dt: 0.0500, sse=20028784.0, rms=26.000 (0.365%)

010: dt: 0.0500, sse=19890884.0, rms=25.907 (0.358%)

positioning took 1.0 minutes

mean border=46.4, 57828 (53089) missing vertices, mean dist 9.6 [0.2 (%0.0)->13.3 (%100.0))]

%24 local maxima, % 7 large gradients and %40 min vals, 4827 gradients ignored

tol=1.0e-04, sigma=2.0, host=unkno, nav=16, nbrs=2, l_surf_repulse=1.000, l_tspring=1.000, l_nspring=0.500, l_intensity=0.200, l_curv=1.000

mom=0.00, dt=0.05

000: dt: 0.0000, sse=21510736.0, rms=26.320

011: dt: 0.0500, sse=21370844.0, rms=26.231 (0.338%)

012: dt: 0.0500, sse=21233808.0, rms=26.144 (0.333%)

013: dt: 0.0500, sse=21098910.0, rms=26.057 (0.331%)

014: dt: 0.0500, sse=20965742.0, rms=25.972 (0.329%)

015: dt: 0.0500, sse=20834178.0, rms=25.887 (0.327%)

016: dt: 0.0500, sse=20703918.0, rms=25.802 (0.326%)

017: dt: 0.0500, sse=20575078.0, rms=25.719 (0.324%)

018: dt: 0.0500, sse=20447296.0, rms=25.635 (0.324%)

019: dt: 0.0500, sse=20320634.0, rms=25.553 (0.323%)

020: dt: 0.0500, sse=20195002.0, rms=25.470 (0.323%)

positioning took 1.1 minutes

mean border=46.3, 57994 (51335) missing vertices, mean dist 9.3 [0.1 (%0.0)->12.8 (%100.0))]

%24 local maxima, % 7 large gradients and %40 min vals, 4820 gradients ignored

tol=1.0e-04, sigma=2.0, host=unkno, nav=16, nbrs=2, l_surf_repulse=1.000, l_tspring=1.000, l_nspring=0.500, l_intensity=0.200, l_curv=1.000

mom=0.00, dt=0.05

000: dt: 0.0000, sse=20284860.0, rms=25.363

021: dt: 0.0500, sse=20159524.0, rms=25.281 (0.323%)

022: dt: 0.0500, sse=20035252.0, rms=25.199 (0.323%)

023: dt: 0.0500, sse=19911852.0, rms=25.118 (0.322%)

024: dt: 0.0500, sse=19789384.0, rms=25.037 (0.322%)

025: dt: 0.0500, sse=19667922.0, rms=24.957 (0.322%)

026: dt: 0.0500, sse=19547232.0, rms=24.877 (0.322%)

027: dt: 0.0500, sse=19427442.0, rms=24.797 (0.321%)

028: dt: 0.0500, sse=19308560.0, rms=24.717 (0.321%)

029: dt: 0.0500, sse=19190536.0, rms=24.638 (0.321%)

030: dt: 0.0500, sse=19073444.0, rms=24.559 (0.320%)

positioning took 1.2 minutes

mean border=46.3, 58182 (49681) missing vertices, mean dist 9.0 [0.1 (%0.1)->12.4 (%99.9))]

%24 local maxima, % 7 large gradients and %40 min vals, 4842 gradients ignored

tol=1.0e-04, sigma=2.0, host=unkno, nav=16, nbrs=2, l_surf_repulse=5.000, l_tspring=1.000, l_nspring=0.500, l_intensity=0.200, l_curv=1.000

mom=0.00, dt=0.50

000: dt: 0.0000, sse=19160218.0, rms=24.467

031: dt: 0.5000, sse=18407090.0, rms=23.957 (2.084%)

032: dt: 0.5000, sse=17688926.0, rms=23.460 (2.077%)

033: dt: 0.5000, sse=17006668.0, rms=22.976 (2.063%)

034: dt: 0.5000, sse=16360864.0, rms=22.507 (2.040%)

035: dt: 0.5000, sse=15751547.0, rms=22.055 (2.009%)

036: dt: 0.5000, sse=15177610.0, rms=21.620 (1.973%)

037: dt: 0.5000, sse=14637857.0, rms=21.201 (1.936%)

038: dt: 0.5000, sse=14127666.0, rms=20.797 (1.904%)

039: dt: 0.5000, sse=13644749.0, rms=20.407 (1.877%)

040: dt: 0.5000, sse=13185130.0, rms=20.028 (1.856%)

041: dt: 0.5000, sse=12746617.0, rms=19.660 (1.838%)

042: dt: 0.5000, sse=12325521.0, rms=19.300 (1.832%)

043: dt: 0.5000, sse=11921329.0, rms=18.948 (1.825%)

044: dt: 0.5000, sse=11532627.0, rms=18.603 (1.819%)

045: dt: 0.5000, sse=11158549.0, rms=18.265 (1.816%)

046: dt: 0.5000, sse=10795637.0, rms=17.932 (1.826%)

047: dt: 0.5000, sse=10442737.0, rms=17.601 (1.845%)

048: dt: 0.5000, sse=10097535.0, rms=17.271 (1.871%)

049: dt: 0.5000, sse=9762229.0, rms=16.945 (1.887%)

050: dt: 0.5000, sse=9437930.0, rms=16.624 (1.896%)

051: dt: 0.5000, sse=9120953.0, rms=16.304 (1.927%)

052: dt: 0.5000, sse=8813598.0, rms=15.987 (1.940%)

053: dt: 0.5000, sse=8514504.0, rms=15.673 (1.965%)

054: dt: 0.5000, sse=8222812.0, rms=15.361 (1.991%)

055: dt: 0.5000, sse=7938257.0, rms=15.051 (2.021%)

056: dt: 0.5000, sse=7662795.0, rms=14.744 (2.040%)

Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Data were here:

https://pitt.box.com/s/6269a9mnwbs6zi0azn08dn55u47yfa7i


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Douglas N. Greve <https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu&q=from:%22Douglas+N.+Greve%22> Mon, 24 Feb 2020 06:34:51 -0800 <https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu&q=date:20200224>

Try setting -max XXX
where XXX is the maximum allowable thickness. It is default to 5, so try something large
On 2/21/2020 11:36 AM, CiRong Liu wrote:

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    Dear experts of the freesurfer,

    I was trying to create the white matter and pial surfaces of
    the cerebellum of the marmoset, based on ultra-high (80um)
    resolution ex-vivo images.I manually segment the cerebellum into
    the white matter and the gray matter and change the header
    information to 1mm.Based on the manual segmented files, I created
    white matter surfaces (rh.orig).I tried to use the
    mris_make_surfaces to expand the white matter to create the
    matched pial surface.However, the /mris_make_surfaces/ failed to
    push the surface enough. See the attached files and screenshots.I
    tried smoothing the segmentation, enhancing the contrasts, and
    tested different expert option (for example: -max_csf 0.1
    -min_gray_at_csf_border 1)This was this best I got, but still
    cannot get an optimal result (not pushed
    enough):/mris_mask_surfaces -max_csf 0.1 -min_gray_at_csf_border 1
    -orig_wm orig -orig_pial orig -noaseg -noaparc -T1 ceb_sm
    marmosetceb rh /Since I have already manually segmented the
    cerebellum, *is there a way to force the /mris_make_surfaces/ to
    expand to the boundary of the image?*

    The files can be download to replicate what I did:
    https://pitt.box.com/s/6269a9mnwbs6zi0azn08dn55u47yfa7i

    Thank you very much!

    Best Regards, CiRong Liu

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