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2020년 8월 20일 (목) 오전 12:08, Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>님이 작성:

> what version of fs are you using?
>
> On 8/19/2020 9:03 AM, 정현우 wrote:
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> Hi Douglas,
>
> Thank you for your response. I followed your suggestions and additionally
> tried using Matlab instead of Octave for FsPalm analysis, but I still
> failed to get the results. Adding $FREESURFER_HOME/fsfast/toolbox to my
> matlab path removed the first error output <error: 'fast_p2z' undefined
> near line 1 column 11>, but I still get the other error output <error:
> cannot find expected palm output "fsp_clustere_tstat_fwep.mgz" - check for
> run_palm.m failures'>.
>
> Do you have any suggestions for this problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Hyunwoo
>
> 2020년 8월 13일 (목) 오후 10:37, Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>님이 작성:
>
>>
>>
>> On 8/12/2020 2:44 AM, 정현우 wrote:
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>> Hello Freesurfer Developers,
>>
>> I'm trying to do permutation simulation on 50 subjects to find brain
>> region clusters of which cortical thicknesses have significant association
>> with clinical parameters while controlling for age and sex. I tried this
>> via 'mri_glmfit-sim' but it seems that permutation analysis could not be
>> done with non-orthogonal variables in Freesurfer. I copied the command I
>> used and the error output below.
>>
>> mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir NK_IES_avoidance_correlation.rh.glmdir --perm
>> 1000 1.3 abs --cwp 0.05 --2spaces
>>
>> ERROR: design matrix is not orthogonal, cannot be used with permutation.
>> If this something you really want to do, run with --perm-force
>>
>> What version of FS are you using? If Version 6, then make sure you
>> download the patch. See "If You're Not in an organized course" from
>> https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/MultipleComparisonsV6.0Perm
>>
>>
>> So I tried using PALM, which allows permutation analysis with
>> non-orthogonal variables according to a post in the Freesurfer Archive. I
>> installed PALM, FsPalm and Octave on my computer and ran the command below,
>> but I ran into another error output (copied below) that I do not quite
>> understand.
>>
>> You need to add $FREESURFER_HOME/fsfast/toolbox to your matlab path
>>
>>
>> fspalm --glmdir NK_IES_avoidance_correlation.rh.glmdir --cft 1.3
>> --twotail --name perm.NK_IES_avoidance_correlation.rh --iters 1000
>> --2spaces --cwp .05 --octave
>>
>> preparing a palm subdirectory in
>> /media/sjkim/hd2/subject_data/glm/NK_IES_avoidance_correlation.rh.glmdir/perm.NK_IES_avoidance_correlation.rh
>> found NK_IES_avoidance_correlation.rh.glmdir/surface file - this is a
>> surface-based analysis
>> using the glmfit input file
>> /media/sjkim/hd2/subject_data/glm/NK_IES_avoidance_correlation.rh.10.mgh
>> using area file
>> /media/sjkim/hd2/subject_data/fsaverage/surf/rh.white.avg.area.mgh
>> palm prep complete - running the generated matlab script...
>> error: 'fast_p2z' undefined near line 1 column 11
>> error: cannot find expected palm output "fsp_clustere_tstat_fwep.mgz" -
>> check for run_palm.m failures
>>
>> I copied the matlab script 'run_palm.m' below.
>>
>> hemi = 'rh';
>> input =
>> '/media/sjkim/hd2/subject_data/glm/NK_IES_avoidance_correlation.rh.10.mgh';
>> maskfile =
>> '/media/sjkim/hd2/subject_data/glm/NK_IES_avoidance_correlation.rh.glmdir/mask.mgh';
>> surffile = '/media/sjkim/hd2/subject_data/fsaverage/surf/rh.white';
>> areafile =
>> '/media/sjkim/hd2/subject_data/fsaverage/surf/rh.white.avg.area.mgh';
>>
>> %% Changing threshold for two-tailed test
>> cft = 1.3 + 0.301;
>> pthresh = 10^-cft;
>> zthresh = fast_p2z(pthresh);
>> iters = 1000;
>>
>> zthreshstr = sprintf('%f',zthresh);
>> itersstr = sprintf('%d',iters);
>>
>>
>> palm('-i',input,'-m',maskfile,'-d','design.mat','-t','design.con','-logp',...
>>      '-n',itersstr,'-C',zthreshstr,'-o','fsp','-twotail','-s',surffile,
>> areafile);
>> return;
>>
>> Do you have any suggestions on how I could figure out this problem? Of
>> note, I am using Freesurfer v6.0 and Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS platform.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Hyunwoo Jeong
>>
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