It doesn’t look like rh.area is recognized correctly. ‘mri_info rh.area’ should 
show it is a ‘curv’ file with nvertices x 1 x 1 dimensions.

I’m not sure where exactly the area values are calculated. What happen if you 
re-run this step?
mris_place_surface --area-map ../surf/rh.white ../surf/rh.area

Can you share the ?h.white and ?h.area?

Best,

Yujing







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not establish read access to rh.area


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Hello Yujing,


Thank you for your quick response!


When I run:

mris_calc -o rh.area.mid /path/to/subject/surf/rh.area add 
/path/to/subject/surf/rh.area.pial

I get the following error:

error: No such file or directory
error: read_signa(/Volumes/Beta/Carmen/t1/p03_8/p03_8/surf/I.001): could not 
open file
error: No such file or directory
error:
mris_calc: could not establish read access to 
'/Volumes/Beta/Carmen/t1/p03_8/p03_8/surf/rh.area'.


But when I run:

mri_info rh.area

I get the following output:

Volume information for rh.area
          type: unknown
    dimensions: 831 x 10015 x 25953
   voxel sizes: -0.000000, -0.000000,    nan
          type: SHORT (4)
           fov: 1016.473
           dof: 1
        xstart: 0.0, xend: 990983162970892849632569550308376576.0
        ystart: -0.0, yend: 3079152361728581627851833344.0
        zstart: -0.0, zend: -3815443229699337177012458129513775104.0
            TR: 0.00 msec, TE: -0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle: 0.00 
degrees
       nframes: 1
       PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
       FieldStrength: 0.000000
ras xform present
    xform info: x_r =  -1.0000, y_r =   0.0000, z_r =   0.0000, c_r = 
-18770011487391973376.0000
              : x_a =   0.0000, y_a =   0.0000, z_a =   1.0000, c_a =        nan
              : x_s =   0.0000, y_s =  -1.0000, z_s =   0.0000, c_s =    -0.0000
Orientation   : LIA
Primary Slice Direction: coronal

voxel to ras transform:
                0.0000  -0.0000      nan        nan
               -0.0000  -0.0000      nan        nan
               -0.0000   0.0000      nan        nan
                0.0000   0.0000   0.0000     1.0000

voxel-to-ras determinant nan

ras to voxel transform:
error: mat = NULL!


It appears that this is where the issue is coming from. Any ideas on why this 
is occurring? The brain is normal and has good rh.white and rh.pial surfaces.


Many thanks,
Taylor


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Hi Taylor,

I don’t understand how you could get that error.  It seems to me that 
read_signa() is for reading .signa files.

Can you try ‘mris_calc -o rh.area.mid rh.area add rh.area.pial’ directly? Pass 
full path to your rh.area and rh.area.pial.

What does ‘mri_info rh.area’ report?

Best,

Yujing


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Subject: [Freesurfer] recon-all hard error: mris_calc could not establish read 
access to rh.area


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Hello FreeSurfer Developers,


I am attempting to run the recon-all pipeline on one subject using the 
following code:

recon-all -all -i t1.nii -s p03_1

Although, I get the following error in the command line:

mris_calc -o rh.area.mid rh.area add rh.area.pial
error: No such file or directory
error: read_signa(/Volumes/Beta/Carmen/t1/p03_8/p03_8/surf/I.001): could not 
open file
error: No such file or directory
error:
mris_calc: could not establish read access to 'rh.area'.

Tue Aug  1 15:58:13 EDT 2023
ERROR: vertexvol
mris_calc -o rh.area.mid rh.area add rh.area.pial
Darwin C02F10PVPN5W.local 22.6.0 Darwin Kernel Version 22.6.0: Wed Jul  5 
22:21:56 PDT 2023; root:xnu-8796.141.3~6/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64

recon-all -s p03_8 exited with ERRORS at Tue Aug  1 15:58:13 EDT 2023

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The recon-all.error file contains:

------------------------------
SUBJECT p03_8
DATE Tue Aug  1 15:58:13 EDT 2023
USER taylorariko
HOST C02F10PVPN5W.local
PROCESSOR x86_64
OS Darwin
Darwin C02F10PVPN5W.local 22.6.0 Darwin Kernel Version 22.6.0: Wed Jul  5 
22:21:56 PDT 2023; root:xnu-8796.141.3~6/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
7.2.0 (freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.2.0-20210713-aa8f76b)
/Applications/freesurfer/7.2.0/bin/recon-all
PWD /Volumes/Beta/Carmen/t1/p03_8/p03_8/mri
CMD vertexvol --s p03_8 --rh --th3

I have made sure that I have read, write, and execute access to the folder 
/path/to/subject/surf and the file rh.area. I can successfully run the command 
to make rh.area (mris_place_surface --area-map ../surf/rh.white 
../surf/rh.area), but the error persists in using rh.area. I have disk space 
and can run other commands such as this fake one (mris_calc -o rh.area.Test 
rh.area.pial add rh.area.pial), but not if it contains rh.area. I have tried to 
rerun the command from root and get the same error message.

I found 2 similar threads of the mail-archive, though I didn’t find any 
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Does anyone have any thoughts on how to trouble-shoot this? I have included my 
recon-all.log in the case it is of any use.


  1.  Freesurfer version: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.2.0-20210713-aa8f76b
  2.  Platform: macOS Sonoma 14.3.1
  3.  uname -a: Darwin C02F10PVPN5W.local 23.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 23.3.0: 
Wed Dec 20 21:28:58 PST 2023; root:xnu-10002.81.5~7/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
  4.  recon-all.log: see attached


Thanks in advance!

Taylor Ariko

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