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Dear Freesurfer Experts,

I am looking into generating subcortical surfaces from the subcortical volumes 
generated from recon-all. The reason for this is I am trying to create a vertex 
based Morphological Similarity Network generated from both cortical and 
subcortical regions. Ideally I would avoid Volume Based Statistics as, from 
what I can see, I am limited to just thickness features.

I have run recon-all for all of my participants, and ideally my set up for 
surface subcortical features would be done in freesurfer as well, although I am 
aware of other tools such as:
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https://secure-web.cisco.com/1u1Ru_EifdWYQsjg7F-GHFGBp-Vkvjk_3iHSqwgV0CTWKwS_FdITj126INHIN78MyDplkEgShMCUIlnKVgVAVeIL4pXXY0VzSExsLZPdSZzxjJkfX71D38cItZvMy0YpbKye--NNeT0bh3Tomd12EW1AAdNcOFsjDbbn_pa2ThIa_zYKV1RErGaiqR-uN33LV-JUKm-H6SrWEurQFUU9O-BLvIKrPcdGn_ZP7LhTJSQSzia576nMQtbhwz8k4uk9Tn3scHnFpNNJ-BdlV-VJmxSSTlz9c8vsy4woTK4TB-kkfz47AKxZg0RU8oilcgIikrfo_kO5HCoQwAMqTqxsJhA/https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fthomas-vincent%2Fnipic%2Fwiki%2F%255BFreesurfer%255D-Get-surfaces-of-subcortical-structures
https://secure-web.cisco.com/1yhlZBs4CaRuE7OrwrGVtEsQL33d47WfL9Yu02tKHEzKqGis-VZ2QsUo3wc0I-F9Xl4CD42o42gUtGEvKCz8usWl7X-3fhwsXAu2DKmngoloe8OIoLcqBvxP7uX_nAUAOzJVhL1v1X1wGpSSCDx2i646Rrxd1R0iGBv28T3TEcEzQA7Mfpl98Tse0ab3SdW04eOZHbRzG0bqADUjE7WXLR3jQUj9GAT4IkULnuGhhv7CP9gF2IIOAaNcBqU8xsijZDxWuelDUPELsRrWlxOJ6HSBWWntUhP7GZF336sA8O4ErBZai7rjk2BwMvCxskkvPYYEduQ_YepFNicYE-rsWnA/https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkhanlab%2Fsurfmorph
https://secure-web.cisco.com/1SH8G6D-66tFkOVdkMhKlZU3DoZJWFrankZvFbDjhud520NPLJFMbPVEY3QEkx1Anjs_T-mOZ802DkO8IMAoKICsuHGbfGHzlCBpuLpBo3eG6xOMEBAvyPoDJp4Foco_c278n-AKuUSqWStoiyqybIWHuEDnEVXSCFHtEcCER3WFc7Y05QDcELHJxcVyfuqIM49409LcHzosBJuWF2rTNTteyik5rMYdclhak8oiyez2cmqdIO_JRAajAd0aadfNPhe0A7A41RkGowT8gzaCssM-DEIHPy8MjjNu8X8iL8dp0yAyktpa1nICSQP4S41QtHxJqzOkF7bZHOU6xFerjNA/https%3A%2F%2Fgsl.lab.asu.edu%2Fmtsms%2F
inaivu/aseg2srf at master * aestrivex/inaivu * 
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The above tools may be able to generate subcortical surfaces, but I would then 
need to convert them back to freesurfer formats to run mris_anatomical_stats, 
which I am lost with. If anyone has any advice for this, this would be great!

Within freesurfer, I am aware of tools such as mri_vol2surf, as well as other 
such as mris_sample_parc - Free Surfer Wiki 
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 I am a bit lost as to how to use these tools, as the documentation is limited, 
and threads are more looking at generating these surfaces for visualizations 
rather than anatomical statistics.

I am also wondering if there are any additional processing steps, perhaps 
normalization, that may be required before creating the MSN.

If anyone has tried this before or has any advice, I would love to hear. I am 
relatively new to this area, using freesurfer past recon-all, so any help is 
appreciated!

Many thanks,
Sam
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