Bruce,

Fine; I've installed it on my CentOS box, but that doesn't mean I like it. It 
still doesn't make sense to take away options, even if they aren't being 
maintained like someone would want.

I do have another post to make about a little project I've started, so I'll emd 
this thread on the above note.

Matthew Pitts
N8OHU 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] codec2-dev different results with cmake vs. 
autotools
From: Bruce Perens <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 13-Jun-2013 12:41
To: [email protected]
CC: 

Hi Matthew,

The problem is not that you have to learn cmake. You've shown your 
competence with autotools and so it should not take you long at all.

The problem is that somewhere between 20 and 100 people on the team have 
to learn either autotools or cmake well enough to make continuing 
changes to the build system. And I looked at autotools and decided that 
basing their further work on it, and forcing them all up a learning 
curve so steep was not realistic compared to getting the 5 people 
maximum that are competent in autotools to use cmake. We'd been talking 
about this for at least a year, so I was really happy when Richard came 
along and actually did the work.

I hope you'd admit that the esthetic choices in autotools and even make 
are not the ones we'd make today. It ended up being a balance of least 
ugly, most functional, largest community.

     Thanks

     Bruce

On 6/13/2013 6:42 AM, Matthew wrote:
> So basically anyone that has extensive knowledge of how Autotools work and 
> have been able to work with the system just fine should be forced to learn a 
> whole new set of tools so they can continue working with this? Doesn't sound 
> fair to me for some odd reason. And yes, I know enough about them (Autotools) 
> to do things that can be done with cmake; now, whether those things can all 
> be done natively or not is something I will leave to other developers to talk 
> about.
>
> Matthew Pitts
> N8OHU
>
>


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