David,


I just checked the internet BGP table, and none of the ip-addresses in 44.192.0.0/10 is currently announced on the public ipv4 BGP feed.

For ip-addresses, the same rule applies as for frequencies: use them or lose them.

The rules to be learned here are:

- if you have IP-addresses,  make sure you announce them on the internet (even if they just go to a block-hole on a routers).
That is something the people in Germany should have thought about before.

- As far as I know, the price for an official routable IP-address is now something like 3 euro per address, so I let you calculate how much selling 4 million addresses will bring you). It is -I think- a very bad idea to trust that kind of capital to an organisation in the hands of just a few people and expect they will manage a good worth that many money "for the public good".

The first thing that need to be done now is to make sure that the organisation that owns 44/8 is not owned by individuals , but is taken over by an organisation that has a proper legal goal to promote amateur radio, and is properly audited to act like that.



As a network engineer, I always find it a sad thing to see that another block of IP-addresses is again taken up by a US organisation. The US already is assigned more then its share of IP-addresses (based on its population or internet-use) and this fact has lead to the situation that we are still stuck with people trying to get ipv4-addresses while ipv6 has existed for over 20 years now.

This has lead to a lazyness for developers to port their application to be ipv6-ready (including certain ham-radio applications), which results in all kind of centralised "cloud" half-way sollutions to get over all the NATs on the net, instead of any-to-any connectivity, as what the internet was actually designed for.


Oh well.
That's life, I guess!

73
kristoff - ON1ARF



On 19/07/19 18:21, David Ranch wrote:

The seller was: Brian Kantor, Phil Karn, K. C. Claffy, John Gilmore, who make up the B.O.D. of the 501(c)(3) tax exempt firm ARDC (Amateur Radio Digital Communications)

Note: These addresses have never been used.

Please note this is NOT correct.  It was posted by DL9SAU (one of the Germany AMPR coordinators) so far:
--
https://portal.ampr.org/networks.php

        44.224.0.0 / 15 GERMANY

..with currently ~9500 assignments.
--

The users of those IPv4 blocks will not have to request new blocks and then 
work to re-address their entire infrastructure.  That's potentially a very 
large body of work.  In addition to this, I believe as other AMPR users and 
coordinators learn of this sale (the news broke late last night), more 
conflicts will be exposed.

This sale was conducted behind closed doors with no public vetting or any input 
from the AMPR community.  There was no bidding process and this large chunk of 
limited Internet resource and it went to a single US mega-corporation:  Amazon. 
 Many aspects of this sale sets off several different alarms in my mind.  My 
largest concern here is what prevents the ARDC from selling off the next 25%, 
50%, or 100% of the address space?  If this current sale is 100% legal, then 
there is nothing blocking them from doing it again.

--David
KI6ZHD




    /Our plan is to establish a program of grants and scholarships that
    will serve to promote the art and science of digital communications
    including Amateur Radio./


This opens up a funding source for research. It may take a long time before all the paperwork and legal requirements are complete.

Whois extract:

NetRange: 44.192.0.0 - 44.255.255.255
CIDR: 44.192.0.0/10 <http://44.192.0.0/10>
NetName:        AT-88-Z
NetHandle:      NET-44-192-0-0-1
Parent:         NET44 (NET-44-0-0-0-0)
NetType:        Direct Allocation
OriginAS:
Organization:   Amazon Technologies Inc. (AT-88-Z)
RegDate:        2019-07-18
Updated:        2019-07-18
Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/44.192.0.0



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