Michael,

Please calm down.  Everyone know's what mixer.py does; and I can vouch
that most of them understand your intent for sixmixer is.

As freevo is in such a feature rich space; requirements are discussed
openly.  Thankyou for your contribution and I can't wait to see when
you something that can be added to either of the current trees (rel1
or 2.0).

Your excelent idea of extending mixer's functionality has simply
eveolved to become a discussion of how far that feature could be
integrated into freevo.  Be proud you've contributed not just a new
feature but a new set of idea's that can be incorporated down the
track.

Mick

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Michael Beal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jan 17, 2007 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game
To: freevo-devel@lists.sourceforge.net


This is the straw that broke the camel's back...

It seems so few actually listen to the comments being made.  This
thread has gone several different directions and has gone way off track
from it's original intent.  This tells me no one is _really_ listening
and I cannot abide this level of communication and miscomprehension.

So, forget it.  Take me off this list.  I'll just do my own system the
way I want it and you guys can fight it out as to what gets done and
what doesn't.


--- Richard van Paasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> From: Dirk Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Michael Beal wrote:
> > > I feel that Freevo has become overly complicated and needs to be
> > > streamlined.
> >
> > That is what Freevo 2.0 is doing. Freevo 1.x is very complex with
> too
> > many dependencies and modules accessing some stuff from others.
> Like
> > you wrote before, some plugins access internal stuff of the mixer.
> To
> > avoid that we moved many parts out of Freevo into the kaa media
> > repository. Each module in there is easier to maintain and the
> > dependencies are clear.
> >
> > > As I see it, the most complicated part of Freevo should be the
> GTK
> > > interface.
> >
> > I don't see much hope for Freevo 1.x to get an easy config app. It
> is
> > just because that we use python code as config file. To keep it
> > simple, we have kaa.config for 2.0 and it should be easy to write a
> > config gui for it.
> >
> > > Nothing else needs be as complex.
> >
> > Yes and no. As you wrote, you don't need audio recoding. I have the
> > CPU power, use digital audio out and getting non AC3/DTS 6 channel
> > output is a nice feature for me.
>
> I agree with Dichi. Freevo 1.x is still being developed, mainly
> because 2.0
> takes longer than expected. The Freevo project stays alive this way.
> We don't
> need 1.x to be set on hold because of streamlining activities. The
> odds for a
> good architecture are set to Freevo 2.0. In my opinion it is better
> to add
> functionality to Freevo 1.x. Improvements are fine, but stay away
> from the
> global optimizations with huge impact.
>
> Richard.
>
> > Dischi
> >
> > --
> > "We're back to the times when men were men and wrote their own
> device
> >  drivers"
> >      -- Linus Torvalds
> >
>
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