On Wed, 17 January, 2007 7:16 am, mike lewis wrote: > Michael, > > > Please calm down. Everyone know's what mixer.py does; and I can vouch > that most of them understand your intent for sixmixer is. > > As freevo is in such a feature rich space; requirements are discussed > openly. Thankyou for your contribution and I can't wait to see when you > something that can be added to either of the current trees (rel1 or 2.0). > > Your excelent idea of extending mixer's functionality has simply > eveolved to become a discussion of how far that feature could be integrated > into freevo. Be proud you've contributed not just a new feature but a new > set of idea's that can be incorporated down the track. > > Mick
I agree with all that Mick says, the devel list is there for ideas it's quite hard getting sensible ideas without discussing them and letting them evolve into something really good. The code in mixer.py is really crap and does have a misleading name, it should be called volume.py as this is all it does. It certainly is not a mixer and it would be really good to get one into freevo. Please do continue. My approach is that I'm pretty happy to add to the freevo one development branch _almost_ anything that someone wishes to have added and has spent some time developing, even when I know that it has a few bugs, this way if someone wants to use the addition, knows or wants to learn Python they very often fix the problem and the feature is ready for prime time. :) Check out the webserver library for example, broken to start with and then over time got fixed now it is getting really good. After thirty odd years of developing software, I have seen that all software after a couple of years is no longer streamlined and even happens if your are the only developer; how many times have I looked at some old code that I wrote and wondered what I was thing about when I wrote it. :) Cheers, Duncan > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Michael Beal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Jan 17, 2007 2:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game > To: freevo-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > This is the straw that broke the camel's back... > > > It seems so few actually listen to the comments being made. This > thread has gone several different directions and has gone way off track > from it's original intent. This tells me no one is _really_ listening and > I cannot abide this level of communication and miscomprehension. > > > So, forget it. Take me off this list. I'll just do my own system the > way I want it and you guys can fight it out as to what gets done and what > doesn't. > > > --- Richard van Paasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- >> From: Dirk Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >>> Michael Beal wrote: >>> >>>> I feel that Freevo has become overly complicated and needs to be >>>> streamlined. >>> >>> That is what Freevo 2.0 is doing. Freevo 1.x is very complex with >>> >> too >>> many dependencies and modules accessing some stuff from others. >> Like >> >>> you wrote before, some plugins access internal stuff of the mixer. >> To >> >>> avoid that we moved many parts out of Freevo into the kaa media >>> repository. Each module in there is easier to maintain and the >>> dependencies are clear. >>> >>>> As I see it, the most complicated part of Freevo should be the >>>> >> GTK >> >>>> interface. >>> >>> I don't see much hope for Freevo 1.x to get an easy config app. It >>> >> is >>> just because that we use python code as config file. To keep it >>> simple, we have kaa.config for 2.0 and it should be easy to write a >>> config gui for it. >>> >>>> Nothing else needs be as complex. >>>> >>> >>> Yes and no. As you wrote, you don't need audio recoding. I have the >>> CPU power, use digital audio out and getting non AC3/DTS 6 channel >>> output is a nice feature for me. >> >> I agree with Dichi. Freevo 1.x is still being developed, mainly >> because 2.0 takes longer than expected. The Freevo project stays alive >> this way. We don't >> need 1.x to be set on hold because of streamlining activities. The odds >> for a good architecture are set to Freevo 2.0. In my opinion it is >> better to add functionality to Freevo 1.x. Improvements are fine, but >> stay away from the global optimizations with huge impact. >> >> Richard. >> >> >>> Dischi >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "We're back to the times when men were men and wrote their own >>> >> device >>> drivers" -- Linus Torvalds >>> >>> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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