Hello Johnny,
On Sat, 05 May 2007 at 19:59 +0200, Johnny Halfmoon wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> For the past few months I've been playing around with (read:
> customizing) two machines I've got here, one being an Asus WL500gP
> running FreeWRT and the other Linksys running OpenWRT. I also spent
> quite some time nosing around the IRC channels, Forums, Wikis and
> homepages. From this period I've noticed a few things. A minor warning:
> Potential flame bait ahead. My intention is not to express any opinion
> about anything being better than anything else; I would merely like to
> pose a sugestion.
> 
> I've used both build systems and from this I feel FreeWRT to be ahead of
> OpenWRT as far as tehnology is concerned. It definitely is more flexible
> in it's build system, has more packages, and generally feels more
> proffessional. Whether this is actually true doesn't really matter for
> now. What I feel does matter is that there is a severe lack of proper
> documentation for FreeWRT, which sometimes makes it a right
> pain-in-the-bottom to configure / modify. It is in this aspect that I
> feel OpenWRT to be quite strong, which inherently makes it more
> accessible to users and developpers alike.
> 
> Now, what would be nice if we could get FreeWRT to get a similar level
> of accessibilty for both developpers and "mere mortal users". The way
> that OpenWRT seems to achieve this is through the use of a publicly
> accessible Wiki (MoinMoin in their case). Their documentation system
> isn't perfect, but at least they've got quite a large part of their
> system documented. Such a system has at least two positive consequences.
> (1) Developpers can be assisted in their documentation by users, or even
> relieved of documenting at all in some cases. Developpers generally hate
> documenting, so this seems like a desirable situation. (2) The other
> consequence of better documentation is that it will most likely  make
> FreeWRT more accesible and thus attract more developpers and / or users
> to the FreeWRT community, who in their turn again might contribute to
> the community.
> 
> Ofcourse mainatining a Wiki requires some resources like time and
> bandwith, but that seems like a small price to pay for a more or less
> self-sustaining documentation system.

Do you have the resources to maintain a public wiki for us?
Unfortunately I have not the resources and none of the existing
developers or contributors seems to have it. I know that our
existing documentation is not perfect and that we could profit from
our existing userbase to improve it. Therefore you can always
contribute to our handbook:
http://www.freewrt.org/trac/wiki/Documentation/Handbook
Or suggest FAQ entries or new articles. 

I really hate spam and wrong documentation. It is not really
possible to avoid spam in a public wiki or wrong documentation
without having someone, who follow all changes and regulary remove
or correct entries.

If you just want to help with our wiki docs, I can give you a 
editor account. If you want to help with the handbook, either send
patches to the Tex-file or send us comments in ASCII and we will
integrate it. 

The handbook needs to match the release. Even this is not completely
done, yet.

The OpenWrt people having problems with their Wiki:
http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Installing?action=diff
I know it exactly, because some long time ago I tried to reorganize
the documentation and fill in a lot of information. But many people
are trying to ask questions in the wiki or just filling the wiki is 
crap.

thanks for your input.
        Waldemar

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