Am Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007 18:10:10 schrieb Lothar Gesslein:
> I just had the following conversation:
>
> 17:43 < ulmen_> mirabilos: erklär dich bitte mal auf der mailingliste,
> warum du soviel aufwand betreibst, das +x überall loszuwerden ...
> 17:49 < mirabilos> damits einheitlich ist und die skripte mit sh
> aufgerufen werden
> 17:50 < ulmen_> hier ist keine mailingliste ;)
> 17:51 < ulmen_> vielleicht auch ein bischen ausführlicher, das hat mich
> jetzt nicht sehr überzeugt
> 17:51 < mirabilos> *schulterzuck*
> 17:52 < ulmen_> im sinne von "mir doch egal"? oder nur um die lästigen
> fliegen zu verscheuchen?
> 17:58 < mirabilos> im sinne von "ich mach das jetzt halt so und werd das
> auch nicht ändern, wenn ihr mehrheitlich das anders haben wollt, müßt
> ihr das mit wbx abklären und selbst committen und testen"

just one german word for that:

traurig!

I am not sure if you realize what a community project is about, thorsten. But 
I can tell you what it is not about. it is not about shrugging with the 
shoulders and justing doing stuff even if it is obvious that everbody else 
thinks that is a bad idea and doesn't agree.

and what about waldemar? waldemar is the project leader and of course his 
opinion is very important, but why don't you understand that more or less the 
whole developer community should be at least as important as the project 
leaders opinion and that maybe not for every conflict waldemar must be 
called. I think waldemar wants to set the goals for the project and doesn't 
want to be the referee in every small disagreement between developers.

> ENOARGUMENT...
>
> So please wbx, what is your statement regarding this topic?
> I'm sure we find some volonteers for "fixing" it, if the consens is to
> have the initscripts executable.

freewrt is for the community of users and developers that expects a "minimal 
linux adk/distro for their router". So we should try to stay as close as we 
can to the normal linux standards. I think (but I am not sure) that the LSB 
also says that init.d scripts should be executable.

Everything that doesn't work like on a normal linux box is causing a lot of 
headache to freewrt newbies, even if they have a lot linux experience 
already. 

That's my opinion and I will not get tired to repeat that, because a freewrt 
system that nobody uses is not good for anybody. besides that, freewrt 1.1 
should get released this year in autumn and we should not start to change 
things that has proved satisfactory already.

sorry, waldemar? :)

--Ralph
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