The Genius of James Madison was to see that a large country with many factions would be freer from factionalism that a small country would be. The factions would cancel each other out. Factionalism was the greatest threat to democracy that the founders saw. Much the same applies to corporations and the marketplace -- we are saturated with islands of self interest, but have a system which has them cancel each other out -- except insofar as they mostly line up, i.e. except for the widely held positions. It's like filtering out all but the DC signal. Democracy as an evolutionary matter, once it is well established, is pretty good at allowing agreement to emerge from the cacophony of viewpoints. It's rapid spread (from one to more than 100 democracies in two centuries) attests to it's evolutionary superiority. There has never been a time when those in power didn't believe in suppressing all other viewpoints. It is the essence of all non-democracies. In democracies people always want to achieve that, but they they are structurally inhibited. If they ever succeed, then they are no longer have a democracy. "Democracy is Well Established" == "No One can Suppress all other Points of View" Mike Oliker
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 08:15:31 -0700 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] US intelligence agencies "discover" blogs and wikis To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Phil Henshaw wrote: > The ideal product of democracy is decision making that reflects a whole understanding of things by integrating all points of view. Trouble develops when the points of view that believe in suppressing all others take over. > I have my doubts about the evolutionary value of democracy in the modern world. For example, in the corporate world the motivation is supplied by stockholders and the points of view are supplied by employees. Worse, the corporate leaders, workers, and stockholders are all different people, disinterested in the welfare of one another. Complicating matters is that the corporations have the ear of government. Democracy in these kinds of conditions requires individual courage and idealism.
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