Marcie at emptywheel.firedoglake.com addressed this earlier today - 
somehow no cable trunks ending in the Middle East on this list, nor
in Africa (despite the new big cable going around the continent?
Or the 4 cables going into Egypt that were accidentally cut to major
outages last year?)

All of this information should still be viewed cautiously -
I still wonder if the government wants this info out - the
last dump bolstered support for an attack on Iran without
giving up too much in embarrassment.

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Od: "Scholand, Andrew J" <ajsc...@sandia.gov>
Komu: "The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group"
<friam@redfish.com>
Předmět: Re: [FRIAM] WikiLeaks, US Gov't prohibition, Corporate
Datum: 6.12.2010 - 18:54:30

> Well, before you mirror Wikifreaks, you may want
> to read this from BBC News:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11923766:
> 
> 'A long list of key facilities around the world
> that the US describes as vital to its national
> security has been released by Wikileaks.
> 
> In February 2009 the State Department asked all US
> missions abroad to list all installations whose
> loss could critically affect US national security.
> 
> The list includes pipelines, communication and
> transport hubs. 
> 
> ...
> 
> It inevitably prompts the question as to exactly
> what positive benefit Wikileaks was intending in
> releasing this document, he adds.
> 
> Former UK Foreign Secretary Sir Malcolm Rifkind
> condemned the move.
> 
> "This is further evidence that they have been
> generally irresponsible, bordering on criminal,"
> Sir Malcolm said. "This is the kind of information
> terrorists are interested in knowing."'
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> ________________________________________
> From: friam-boun...@redfish.com
> [friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Douglas
> Roberts [d...@parrot-farm.net]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:32 AM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee
> Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] WikiLeaks, US Gov't
> prohibition, Corporate Boycotts, etc.
> 
> If you want to add your site to the (currently)
> 507 sites mirroring WikiLeaks, just follow the
> instructions here:
> 
> http://www.wikileaks.ch/mass-mirror.html
> 
> --Doug
> 
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Owen Densmore
> <o...@backspaces.net<mailto:o...@backspaces.net>>
> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:15 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
> > ...
> 
> As usual, nicely thought out and articulated.
> 
> For me its simple.  I like WikiLeaks and the
> counter pressure they bring to bear. Not all
> corporations, politicians, militaries, labs, and
> so on are evil, but lately they've been throwing
> their power around way too much. And WL helps
> create a balance of power.
> 
> It is absurd to argue that WL is putting solders
> and others "at risk".  They have been put there by
> their govt.
> 
> But I doubt Amazon and other ISPs feel they can
> afford the mess they'd get into by offering WL an
> account.
> 
> So what to do? My first approach would be Peer to
> Peer.  That removes the debate from the large and
> powerful to the citizenry.  Our first question
> then would be "would I give 1% of my computer?".
> For me the answer is "yes".
> 
> OK then, how?  Well, the easiest would be
> Torrents. I'd simply subscribe to a set of
> Torrents that were encrypted archives that the EFF
> (Electronic Frontier Foundation) or WL would
> sponsor (RSS, name convention, etc).  This would
> massively replicate the archives, making it pretty
> difficult to crush, yet not "publish" the content
> in the clear until judged appropriate by WL.  We'd
> then need to create a P2P web tech of some sort,
> possibly built on top of torrents, to publish the
> material WL deems ready for the public.
> 
> I'd also ask EFF to vet WL. Why? I have several
> friends associated with them, and although a bit
> on the fringe, I think they'd do a good job of
> calibrating WL, and possibly keeping them within
> bounds of sanity.  If not EFF, then Lawrence
> Lessig.
> 
> Let the people decide!
> 
> -- Owen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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