Well, it may come to pass that the only thing I have worth anythng will
be my phone, so I'll put it in my wallet and lock it with my keys. For
that matter, nothing will be ON my phone (hey, cloud), the phone's main
(only) job is to negotiate protocols. So I don't need no steenking
unified network. Just a loose bag of wires and spectrum. Let the
phones (or whatever we will call them) figure out how to get packets
from here to there. For some uses, maybe no phone at all; have your
people talk to my people. The 'phone' is just a protocol droid (guess
they can keep the name), a commodity, interchangable, just 'around'.
Do we REALLY believe that 20 years from now we're going to be worried
about tv and sms on little devices we carry around on our person?
That's fighting the last war.
Carl
On 1/10/12 9:31 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
Here's an interesting solution for a unified network in France. All
services (voice, sms, tv, data) plus some new ideas (ID, banking):
“In your pocket you have three things: your keys, your phone and
your wallet,” he says. “I think of those three only one will
remain: your phone.”
http://gigaom.com/2012/01/09/how-frances-free-will-reinvent-mobile/
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Carl Tollander <c...@plektyx.com
<mailto:c...@plektyx.com>> wrote:
I'd actually like to see some sort of software radio thing, but
again, kittens.....
What is the victory condition? What is the problem we want to
solve? It seems its not really battery life....
On 1/10/12 6:10 PM, Victoria Hughes wrote:
What a great solution- the mesh network. Communal, reasonable,
relying on interpersonal responsibility. How feasible is this
actually? This model - what without knowing the jargon I'd call
distributed or partnership effort, each person doing a small part
of the task, and numbers making the big tasks happen - seems like
one of those things that can be pulled off in small like-minded
communities, or those with pre-existing need that hasn't been
filled yet. But not so likely in an area where those things
don't exist. Sounds like something the Norwegians would do, or
people in Portland, Oregon.
Say more about how it could be set up? So many applications
besides phone service.
Tory
On Jan 10, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote:
Open source hardware and software can spread quickly to those
who want it, and clearly companies that sell mobile phones do
not want it. But there are enough smart people out there that
communities could build the phones they want. So the issue is
coverage. nG should be like WiFi - as open or closed as the
owner of the hotspot wants, controllable, et cetera. As has been
pointed out, a little weak on security, but nothing that cannot
be fixed. The problem is that mobile devices move around more
than the average computer, even including laptops. This is why
cell towers have been built to cover wide areas, and of course
companies need to be big enough to have enough money to build
them. Big companies tend to not like 'open'. Communities might
be able to raise enough money, but towers are unsightly and some
people claim they cause health problems. So the answer might be
mesh networks - chances are, a given mobile device is a lot
closer to another device than the nearest tower, so signals do
not have to have quite a strong amplitude. This means that
people can provide each other with coverage, bypassing vendors.
-Arlo
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