"For Engineers perhaps, predictive models are sufficient, they may not be (very?) interested in explaining *why* a particular material has the properties it does, merely *what* those properties are and how reliable the properties might be under a variety of conditions."
I don't think this currently true. A big chunk of what used to be labeled "physics" is now in academic engineering departments with the name "material science". This consists of exploiting models that explain observed properties of materials, with the goal of looking for opportunities to change parameters to get improved behavior. In the early 1990s I heard a talk by an engineering professor at the science museum in Toronto, where he explained how such research had led to concrete many times stronger than it had been, and that the iconic tall tower in Toronto could not have been built not many years before it was built, as it relied on much stronger concrete. In some cases someone sees how, starting from fundamental physics principles, one can predict that such and such should happen or be. In other cases an observed phenomenon gets explained in terms of fundamental physics principles (post-diction), which then suggests how changes in the situation might yield an improved behavior. Pre-diction and post-diction both require a deep understanding of how to go from underlying fundamental principles to the behavior, but pre-diction in addition requires the imagination to run the argument forward, not already knowing the answer. That's why I claim that post-diction ("explanation") is more common than pre-diction. There's a fruitful interplay between pre-diction and post-diction. An example I've mentioned some time ago, from our intro physics textbook: When searching for an explanation for spark formation in air (we see the spark and ask how it occurs, which is post-diction or explanation) there are a couple of tentative explanations that one can rule out. Another explanation seems to explain the phenomenon, and the validity of this post-diction is greatly strengthened by noting that it (and not the other explanations) pre-dicts that it takes twice the critical electric field to trigger a spark if the air density is doubled, a pre-diction that is consistent with observations. Bruce ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org