But then that implies a false positive: if in other configurations we don't notice it as a puzzle, then we only (or are more likely to) notice the more 'puzzle-like' phenomena, and interpret that as meaning we are in a game. But is a game the same as a simulation? Sure, games can have elements of simulation (where I define simulation as recreating a system in perhaps simpler terms) but I believe it exists as a separate conceptual entity. Besides, it seems that all these discussions of whether we live in a real universe or not get caught up in circularity because we generally define reality *as* the universe. -Arlo James Barnes
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