Sorry to barge in like this, I've been just a lurker on this list for
years. Here I am writing something.

WhatsApp is very popular in Germany/Europe. On my last trip over there I
finally had to get it, too, just to communicate with friends and family.

Facebook paid way too much money. The whole thing seems to be a flop for
Facebook though: I've been seeing campaigns -- ironically, on Facebook
-- for deletion of WhatsApp because of "privacy concerns." Seems it's
already too late for that anyway, and the advised replacement is Threema
or in some rare instances telegram.org.

On 02/22/2014 11:07 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> Here's a good clip on the deal:
>
> WhatsApp has garnered over 450 million monthly active users globally
> with 70% active on any given day, higher than the 62% engagement rate
> Facebook Inc (NASDAQ:FB
> <http://www.valuewalk.com/stock-data/?stock_symbol=NASDAQ:FB>) reported last
> quarter. It facilitates more than 19 billion sent messages and 34
> billion received messages daily (a single message can be sent to
> multiple people), which, according to Facebook Inc (NASDAQ:FB
> <http://www.valuewalk.com/stock-data/?stock_symbol=NASDAQ:FB>), is
> similar to the size of the entire global SMS market. WhatsApp's
> capabilities go well beyond text messages, with more than 600 million
> photos uploaded per day and more than 200 million voice messages and
> 100 million video messages sent per day.
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net
> <mailto:o...@backspaces.net>> wrote:
>
>     The WhatsApp/FaceBook deal was a surprise for me, I simply wasn't
>     hip enough to even *know* about WhatsApp.
>
>     Well, it turns out its a replacement for SMS.  We folks in the US
>     don't use SMS which originated in the cellular system early on as
>     a way to get all of the third world able to message *very*
>     cheaply, thus have a reason to *buy* a cell phone.  That's not the
>     case here, SMS is an expensive monthly or $.25 each.  USA.  Sigh.
>
>     So for what its worth, WhatsApp sneakily changed the SMS madness
>     (virtually free for cellular carriers due to using 180 free bytes
>     in the control channel but heck why not rip off customers) by
>     making "messages" free.
>
>     Interesting.  So the entire world can now give the finger to slimy
>     cellular providers, but at the cost of joining yet another
>     "service" with all your personal information.  Oh well, who cares.
>
>     Even more clever, FB figured out that this would greatly enhance
>     its service.  Be nice to see how they plan to integrate it into
>     FB, but still, at around 16Billion$.  Basically they look at this
>     as capturing the world wide cellular network.
>
>     Apparently WhatsApp and FB have very different ideas on privacy.
>      I bet the worst one wins.
>
>     Naturally anything this big is going to be the cyberslime magnet,
>     gold medal target.  Cant wait for the first billion user leak.
>      And no, passwords won't help.  Not sure even about 2-factor.
>
>        -- Owen
>
>
>
>
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