But “being an atheist” IS a behavior, isn’t it? In which case the supposition 
is oxymoronic.  

 

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Clark University

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From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Russ Abbott
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 6:14 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Re: Re: clinical diagnosis of 
[a]theism?

 

Suppose you had a device that could read brain waves and determine whether 
someone believed in [a]theism. Since this wouldn't be a diagnosis based on 
behavior would it get at what you want?




 

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On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 2:21 AM, Marcus G. Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com 
<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com> > wrote:

"But I tend to find that everyone has a little bit of Smullyan in them, which 
is why I brought up horror movies.  Anyone who likes fiction, whether they know 
it or not, enjoys playing with artificial logics.  The coherence (or lack 
thereof) of any given game doesn't really detract from the game play, at least 
not to expert game players.  It simply helps the game player classify a 
particular game and then choose to play it when the mood strikes.  When you're 
in the mood for something like Battlestar Galactica, you can't just replace it 
with an episode of the Outer Limits."

Even among people I know relatively well, people that classify themselves as 
gamers, I still find it alien to imagine spending significant time on working 
through an engineered finite state machine.   I just don't see that as either 
useful or fun.   If I had the mental energy to do that, I'd be working or doing 
some peripheral activity that is sort of like work.     Other times, I don't 
have the drive, or I am blocked by other things (like now, the VPN not 
working), or I don't want multitask between hard tasks because that could lead 
to mistakes (but multitasking between easy and hard tasks is feasible).

There's no contradiction if an atheist has a good laugh watching True Blood.   
It doesn't mean that any serious attention is given to that artificial logic.   
It's entertainment.

Marcus



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