Marcus or to Steve, Damn Good Call.
If you would not have uttered such a comment I would not now have such a headache. The threads have become confusing with everyone cutting and pasting chunks with unclear attributions. ( could we get coloured highlights ?) You have the advantage of seeing each other once in a while, I am blind metaphorically . I plan on renewing my passport and attempting to travel again. If it is cold I can Go. So it is not simply the issue of distinct threads but also the appearance of different view points. A viewpoint does not prove a point no matter how much we wish to appear clever. No matter how many "Likes " you get , you are never going to be assured of truth. No matter how often you run an experiment and achieve results either way you will always be trapped in some inductive bubble. Look now to the possibility that many view points may break the inductive / recursion trap that infinite repetition could not. The viewpoints act to increase the number of dimensions open to examination not the precise static resolution adequate for measurement. Imagine video versus still photography and then just add a dash of TimeLapse and HyperLapse or Lemon , into the mixture and you now have such a complex situation that , I get headaches. I am at a loss for language. No one ever really wins arguments that may explain why we believe, our own lies, first, when we speak them out loud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNwWOul4i9Y&sns=em https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ky6vgQfU24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKppuqN04Kc These three videos all show the earth from different viewpoints some from many points. Each appears to be a medium for a specific audience or messages. Truth appears to span dimensions and it moves about. Beneath every set of images lies another bigger reality. If we consider this just for a few moments you would probably demand an explanation from me. I don't have one yet, I won't pretend. I am also part of other networks and get hit with strange stuff occasionally. This net has the advantage of containing some very literate participants. Very rare today. vib I wonder does this material belong to a new Zeitgeist ? Man and machine? -----Original Message----- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: January-16-15 3:05 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] Re: academic fields whose practitioners believe ... On 1/16/15 12:59 PM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: >> It was wonderful the range of personal experience we were able to >> bring to bear on this subject and the lack of guardedness with which >> we were able to explore it given our diverse history. > Another benefit of in-person meetings is that this list fails to > actually deliver all mails! I know... I only occasionally recognize that fact... I think Nick was the first to notice a while back and suggested that it was a conspiracy against him alone... which I also feel sometimes... On the other hand, I find that in-person, there are usually at least two parallel "threads" and while I can survey multiples, I can't really participate in more than one effectively without seeming entirely ADD. > > Marcus > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe > at St. John's College to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com