Having said that well I for one can only speculate why java has/had a history of not caching on. Though I am amused how the web has managed to go full circle. Why do I say that, it seems as if the goal to applets and node is simillar to: DHTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_HTML
DHTML, was ahead it's time because you could make pages yes even those, the ones that beeped-to what became known as a blog. They also seem to want to get things running in the browser like MS bugy gem's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com> wrote: > One could say: > thise.Day(Pine) > print.out("arg YANFL"); > > but the joke might not compile. > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Parks, Raymond <rcpa...@sandia.gov> > wrote: > >> In my case, I was asked to help the Comptrollers (Air Force speak for >> accountants) to optimize the code because they were using an IBM emulator >> on a Honeywell 6800 and their APL programs were bogging down the entire >> system. Oh, what tangled web we create, when first we try to emulate - >> or, perhaps, there was another fine mess they got me into. >> >> Ray Parks >> Consilient Heuristician/IDART Old-Timer >> V: 505-844-4024 M: 505-238-9359 P: 505-951-6084 >> NIPR: rcpa...@sandia.gov >> SIPR: rcpar...@sandia.doe.sgov.gov (send NIPR reminder) >> JWICS: dopa...@doe.ic.gov (send NIPR reminder) >> >> >> >> On Jul 13, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: >> >> I programmed in APL while at Xerox in the 70's. Although "dangerous" it >> was really fast to program in, especially as a domain specific language, so >> to speak. It got so that if you couldn't do a one-liner for anything you >> wanted to do, you'd be disappointed! >> >> Interestingly enough, it was the Finance dept of Xerox that first started >> using it, and then it leaked into the labs where it went viral. >> >> SmallTalk was sorta the same, really great but hard to deploy initially, >> but really loved in the labs. >> >> -- Owen >> >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Parks, Raymond <rcpa...@sandia.gov> >> wrote: >> >>> It's analagous to pets - you raise them (sometimes) from bottle-feeding >>> and they live to old age - and they die long before you are ready. Sure, >>> there are the occasional turtles and parrots that outlive their owners - >>> COBOL has long outlived Grace Hopper - but most computer languages come and >>> go within their authors and certainly users professional lifetimes. >>> Sometimes you babysit somebody else's pet while they're on vacation or >>> something - the other thread on the cube comic points this out - only a few >>> of us have ever worked with SNOBOL (and we probably didn't like it that >>> much). I started with Algol, moved on to COBOL, assembled various >>> flavours, did some Fortran (various flavours), then CMS II (a regression), >>> C, C++, Java (swore at Grady), and then a succession of scripting languages >>> (none of which have stuck). My strangest language experience was A >>> Programming Language (APL) - oh the damage one can do in almost no code. >>> >>> Ray Parks >>> Consilient Heuristician/IDART Old-Timer >>> V: 505-844-4024 M: 505-238-9359 P: 505-951-6084 >>> NIPR: rcpa...@sandia.gov >>> SIPR: rcpar...@sandia.doe.sgov.gov (send NIPR reminder) >>> JWICS: dopa...@doe.ic.gov (send NIPR reminder) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 11, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: >>> >>> This is sorta sad: >>> >>> https://github.com/NetLogo/NetLogo/wiki/Applets >>> Applets: They're dead Jim. >>> >>> Sad mainly from a history standpoint: Java built a really fascinating >>> cross platform, VM based, language & libraries. >>> >>> JS is now the current winner. But then, there's Web Assembly which will >>> provide a path for all languages to replace JS in the browser and in >>> Node.js. >>> >>> Sigh. >>> >>> -- Owen >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> > >
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