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Wot? http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html Btw, Web Assembly is just mimicking what .NET (and Mono) have been able to do for 10 years. From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 7:35 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Applets · NetLogo/NetLogo Wiki . Though I am amused how the web has managed to go full circle. Why do I say that, it seems as if the goal to applets and node is simillar to: DHTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_HTML DHTML, was ahead it's time because you could make pages yes even those, the ones that beeped-to what became known as a blog. They also seem to want to get things running in the browser like MS bugy gem's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com<mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com>> wrote: One could say: thise.Day(Pine) print.out("arg YANFL"); but the joke might not compile. On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Parks, Raymond <rcpa...@sandia.gov<mailto:rcpa...@sandia.gov>> wrote: In my case, I was asked to help the Comptrollers (Air Force speak for accountants) to optimize the code because they were using an IBM emulator on a Honeywell 6800 and their APL programs were bogging down the entire system. Oh, what tangled web we create, when first we try to emulate - or, perhaps, there was another fine mess they got me into. Ray Parks Consilient Heuristician/IDART Old-Timer V: 505-844-4024<tel:505-844-4024> M: 505-238-9359<tel:505-238-9359> P: 505-951-6084<tel:505-951-6084> NIPR: rcpa...@sandia.gov<mailto:rcpa...@sandia.gov> SIPR: rcpar...@sandia.doe.sgov.gov<mailto:rcpar...@sandia.doe.sgov.gov> (send NIPR reminder) JWICS: dopa...@doe.ic.gov<mailto:dopa...@doe.ic.gov> (send NIPR reminder) On Jul 13, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: I programmed in APL while at Xerox in the 70's. Although "dangerous" it was really fast to program in, especially as a domain specific language, so to speak. It got so that if you couldn't do a one-liner for anything you wanted to do, you'd be disappointed! Interestingly enough, it was the Finance dept of Xerox that first started using it, and then it leaked into the labs where it went viral. SmallTalk was sorta the same, really great but hard to deploy initially, but really loved in the labs. -- Owen On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Parks, Raymond <rcpa...@sandia.gov<mailto:rcpa...@sandia.gov>> wrote: It's analagous to pets - you raise them (sometimes) from bottle-feeding and they live to old age - and they die long before you are ready. Sure, there are the occasional turtles and parrots that outlive their owners - COBOL has long outlived Grace Hopper - but most computer languages come and go within their authors and certainly users professional lifetimes. Sometimes you babysit somebody else's pet while they're on vacation or something - the other thread on the cube comic points this out - only a few of us have ever worked with SNOBOL (and we probably didn't like it that much). I started with Algol, moved on to COBOL, assembled various flavours, did some Fortran (various flavours), then CMS II (a regression), C, C++, Java (swore at Grady), and then a succession of scripting languages (none of which have stuck). My strangest language experience was A Programming Language (APL) - oh the damage one can do in almost no code. Ray Parks Consilient Heuristician/IDART Old-Timer V: 505-844-4024<tel:505-844-4024> M: 505-238-9359<tel:505-238-9359> P: 505-951-6084<tel:505-951-6084> NIPR: rcpa...@sandia.gov<mailto:rcpa...@sandia.gov> SIPR: rcpar...@sandia.doe.sgov.gov<mailto:rcpar...@sandia.doe.sgov.gov> (send NIPR reminder) JWICS: dopa...@doe.ic.gov<mailto:dopa...@doe.ic.gov> (send NIPR reminder) On Jul 11, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: This is sorta sad: https://github.com/NetLogo/NetLogo/wiki/Applets Applets: They're dead Jim. Sad mainly from a history standpoint: Java built a really fascinating cross platform, VM based, language & libraries. JS is now the current winner. But then, there's Web Assembly which will provide a path for all languages to replace JS in the browser and in Node.js. 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