Seems my other email address is jammed up ... made it to the archives, though.
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Understanding you-folks Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 13:51:13 -0700 From: glen ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Well, we're in some rarefied air, now ... but since most of you are in Santa Fe, you're used to it. I'll give you 3 ways (I find interesting) that meaning might be non-computational (or at least not 1st order): 1) Rosen: loopiness/closure, 2) situatedness, embeddedness (Penrose: quantum embeddedness), and 3) coherence (who?). (1) has to do with higher order operations. A variable takes on meaning when (partially) convolved into an anticipatory agent ... some process that expects/anticipates the future. (2) A variable takes on meaning when it interacts with the milieu (probably bound by a light cone). And (3) a variable takes on meaning when/if it perfectly integrates with every sentence (again probably bound by some inferential proximity) in the system. These are types of binding that are distinct from, say, plugging in a constant or yet another schema. On 07/06/2016 01:34 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
What does it mean to _mean_ something? Just grounding in some real world phenomenology? Or does it require sensors and actuators -- robotics?
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