Well, that seems to be the question Russ is asking. It would be more difficult 
to answer 'no' if we left off the symbolic part. Then we could argue about the 
closures, if they exist, of things like vortices and such.

On May 25, 2017 5:09:38 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>ok, but we are confined to the inanimate here?  What natural inanimate
>objects do symbolic manipulation?
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