Glen writes:
"The freedoms of the irresponsible are paid for with the obligations of the responsible ... the sick are helped by the healthy ... and the lucky (should) pay for the bad luck of the unlucky." Among adults, there's the view that irresponsibility is a form of mental sickness. And in a deterministic view of things, sickness just occurs whether it `ought to' or not. But, taking that retrospective view, the healthy could be expected to abandon the sick to remain healthy in certain situations. Not taking the mechanistic view, I think some would object to an equivalence of responsibility and sickness and also arise at a similar conclusion that the irresponsible could be abandoned in some situations. It is not necessarily the case that `we' are a whole and must look after one another. The population can be partitioned into compartmentalized subsets. Advocates of health risk pools basically have this view -- an indirect way to do an ugly thing. Marcus ________________________________ ________________________________ From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of gepr ⛧ <geprope...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:54:26 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Help for texas Well, I didn't intend them to be analogs so much as 3 examples of short-sighted failures to invest in infrastructure. The point being that an investment in building codes isn't that much different from an investment in sane zoning or watershed management. We (Oregon included) often sacrifice such infrastructure in the name of "freedom" (for businesses and individuals). The freedom to eat loads of fried chicken is in the same class as the freedom to build a house inside the 100 year flood plain. The freedoms of the irresponsible are paid for with the obligations of the responsible ... the sick are helped by the healthy ... and the lucky (should) pay for the bad luck of the unlucky. On September 5, 2017 3:10:45 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: >If, like Oklahoma, Oregon was pumping waste water underground, then I >might see it in an analogous way. >Fair enough. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of g??? ? >Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 3:47 PM >To: FriAM <friam@redfish.com> >Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Help for texas > >We lack infrastructure development across the board. Renee' gave her >house a "seismic upgrade" recently. And although we had to get it >*inspected* and get a permit, there is NO code for seismic upgrades. >The inspector just comes out, stares at it while rubbing their chin and >calls it good. When the 9.0 hits us, it'll be trivial to say it's our >own fault for not preparing. > >Similarly, Oregon is currently on fire, as is much of Washington and >California. The Eagle Creek Fire >(https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=%23eaglecreekfire&src=typd) >was allegedly started by some teenagers tossing fireworks in the >forest. [sigh] But, systemically, I'm sure there's much more to be >said about forest management. > >Three cheers for less government! > > >On 09/05/2017 09:00 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> Note the date on >this<https://www.propublica.org/article/hell-and-high-water-text> >article. And >this<https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/houston-spent-massively-on-new-stadiums-not-its-aging-dams-as-harvey-proved-that-was-a-very-bad-choice/2017/09/05/94d006de-923a-11e7-aace-04b862b2b3f3_story.html> >article makes me wonder.. -- ⛧glen⛧ ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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