Thanks, Glen.  

I am particularly glad for your good humor because I have so valued your 
comments on some of what I have published.   Keep close a colleague who will 
read what you write.  There is no greater friend an academic can have. 

Nick 

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
thompnicks...@gmail.com
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: FriAM <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FW: A PolyMath by any other name...

You have *nothing* to apologize for. As Steve hinted, I suspect most, if not 
all, of us cringe a bit when reading our own stuff (or even hearing our own 
voice: 
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/dec/18/adam-driver-walk-out-interview-npr-fresh-air-voice).
 I have 3 stories explicitly related to the point: 1) Something I once wrote 
offended so many people, it earned me the nickname "Nazi", the story of which 
held a prominent place in my friend's PhD dissertation. 2) While supporting 
Swarm, something I wrote offended a person so much, they *demanded* an apology 
from the group. And 3) a good friend and mentor once called me a "digital 
austistic" due to my seeming insensitivity in online interaction versus my 
seeming sensitivity in meat space.

I won't tell any of those stories, here, to save y'all from yet another TMI 
share. But I can say I don't regret any of those utterings. Would I say them 
now? No. But that's precisely *because* they were learning experiences. The 
only thing that prevents learning experiences is the *lack* of engagement. So, 
as long as you stay engaged, then apologies are surplus sugar that none of us 
really need ... though some of us -- not me -- really like sugar. 8^)

On 12/30/19 2:19 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote:
> Here I am, renewing my apology for yet a third time, it seems.
> 
> I was actually preaching my belief that we come to friam for different 
> things, and nobody should try to dictate what FRIAM is about.  But I sure as 
> hell had a strange way of putting it!  I am so grateful for Steve’s 
> contemporary correction, which says precisely what I wish I had said.
> 
> I have written to the list.  If I need to do anything more to regain 
> your trust, please let me know.
> 
> All the best, and thank you for your many insights, some of which are 
> on matters I understand.
> 
> I look forward to understanding more.

--
☣ uǝlƃ

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