Frank, The last class I taught at the University of St. Thomas was "Philosophical Foundations of Computer Science." It was standing room only and 20 plus years later I still get emails from students lauding the class and thanking me for the experience.
BTW, at the time St. Thomas had the largest graduate software engineering program in the world, 900 master's degree students. Many if not most of them were part time, because the program catered to working professionals and all courses were taught evenings from 6-9. davew On Wed, Apr 15, 2020, at 9:01 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > I may have mentioned this before but physicists, chemists, engineers etc. > rarely talk about philosophy of science. Social scientists, > particularly.psychologists, do much more. Some mathematicians do because they > believe they are dealing with God. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 7:43 AM uǝlƃ ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: >> There are no "laws of scientific procedure". There's not even a singular >> scientific method. What we have are heuristics and best practices driven by >> repeatability and reproducibility. So, in order to build guidelines for >> *who* to give hydroxychloroquine to, how much to give them, and when to give >> it, we have to experiment. No experimentation means no guidelines. >> >> No guidelines for how much to ship to any given hospital. No guidelines on >> dosage. No guidelines. We don't build bridges that way. We don't write >> software that way. We don't cook food that way. Etc. Why should we "treat" >> patients that way? >> >> Yes, it's true that any particular doctor, imbued with the power of their >> license and their relationship with particular patients, should have the >> power to dose their patient with it. But logistical decisions made at >> massive and costly hospital system scale really do need those guidelines. >> >> It blows my mind that you don't understand this point. >> >> On 4/14/20 8:12 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: >> > The Laws of Scientific Procedure ARE the laws I am talking about here. In >> good times, we can take the time to focus on the consequences to >> individuals. And so, we can design our health systems for the most >> vulnerable among us. That imposes delays on the "mean" patient, but no >> problem, we have other ways of treating the mean patient. In an emergency, >> the possibility that one in a million patients might have an allergy to some >> component of Chlorwhatitsface seems reasonably to be less relevant, even >> though it's built into the laws of scientific medical procedure. >> >> >> -- >> ☣ uǝlƃ >> >> .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... >> .... . ... >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> >> http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... > .... . ... > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >
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