Perhaps I misspoke. I certainly agree that working out an entity's point of view is a problem. I just don't see why it's a hard problem. In otherwords, when Chalmers asserts that there is a Hard Problem of consciousness, him implies that he is pointing to some problem unique in its hardness. I think I am only denying there is not such uniquely hard problem, not that there is not a problem of working out what is from different points of view or a problem of working out some entity's point of view from what is.
Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ? Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 3:44 PM To: FriAM <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve I don't know if it's any harder or not. That's above my pay grade. But I don't *have* to answer the question to understand the question. Chalmers et al are *asking* the question. Some of them speculate on the answer. Some don't speculate on the answer. You said you didn't understand the *problem*. So, pretend your a genius physicist teaching undergraduate physics. Just because you know the answer and the problem you put on the test, and the student does not (yet) know the answer, does NOT mean the student doesn't understand the problem. If you understand the problem and think you have the answer, that's one thing. But that's not what you said. You said you don't understand the problem. On 5/1/20 2:36 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > Well, is it any harder than working out what my point of view is? > > "hard" is a relative term. -- ☣ uǝlƃ .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... .... . ... FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... .... . ... FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/