Yup. That’s what he would say. What persuades you that a super competent computer can’t think? Can a dog think? How would a Martian convince you that it (he, she) can think?
Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> thompnicks...@gmail.com <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 9:08 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve Maybe I missed something that makes this redundant but if a highschool student asked me what the hard problem is I would say: There appears to be no limit to how competent computers can be. They seem to be able to do just about anything that people think requires thought. But I am persuaded that they can't think. What makes the difference between thinking people and hypercompetent computers? Nick would say if it behaves as if it thinks then it thinks. I think. Frank On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 7:50 PM Steven A Smith <sasm...@swcp.com <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com> > wrote: I thought this was a support group for recovering (or just self-indulgent) metaphorists... you mean it's not? Why do I feel like I'm in a scene from "Fight Club"? I guess that would make me more of an allegorist? > Is it? You people can't help yourselves. It's compulsive. You might want to > get some help for that. > > On 5/4/20 10:47 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: >> Choosing one's rifle is so concrete. It makes me want to run out and blow >> away a few cacti. Oh, it's a metaphor! .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ... .... . ... FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam <http://bit.ly/virtualfriam> unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ -- Frank Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918
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