She seems concerned that vaccinated people will spread Delta, Lambda to the 
unvaccinated.    Ooh, can we?   :-)

On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> wrote:


Gail Tverberg:  does anyone have an opinion about her?  Based on her career as 
an actuary she writes various blog posts and articles warning of imminent 
disasters related to Covid, oil prices, etc.  When I search for commentaries 
about her I find almost nothing except items that she has written.  She is 
associated with "Our Finite World".

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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Sat, Aug 7, 2021, 1:28 PM Marcus Daniels 
<mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
No need for victims when there are (pandemic) volunteers.

On Aug 7, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Steve Smith 
<sasm...@swcp.com<mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote:

 Marcus -
The pushback on everything from low wattage lighting to mask mandates leaves me 
thinking that there is really only one thing that motivates certain people:  
That they can do whatever the hell they want and, crucially, that other people 
cannot.   A living wage infringes on that ranking and so must be terrible.   
What if there were physical space for everyone, food for everyone, and many 
optional ways to invest one’s time?   What if one didn’t need a wage at all?  
What if you had to decide for yourself what was worth doing?  Heck, what if one 
(some post-human) didn’t even need food and didn’t need to reproduce?


Sounds Utopian... erh... Dystopian... no... UTOPIAN!   Uhm... I just hope 
posthumans collectively find the rest of us boring enough to leave alone and 
interesting enough to not need to extinct us.   Homo Neanderthalenses had a 
long run (~.4My?) before Homo Sapiens Sapiens found our way into their 
territory and apparently ran over them with our aggressive adaptivity (over a 
period of tens of thousands of years).   I suspect *some* trans/post humans 
will also have a somewhat more virulent (or at least very short time-constant) 
adaptivity indistinguishable (to us) from extermination-class aggression.

I like the fairy tale Spike Jonze wove on this topic with 
HER<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_(film)>, and in particular the virtual 
Alan Watts<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Watts> conception.  But I highly 
doubt we might be so lucky.   More likely some version of "the Borg" or 
"Cylons" or "Replicators" or (passive aggressive) "Humanoids" (minus the 
gratuitous anthropomorphism).   To us, it will probably look more like a "grey 
goo" scenario.  Or perhaps more aptly hyperspectral rainbow-goo.

At the current rate of change/acceleration/jerk in technosocial change I may 
even live to see the whites of the eyes of the hypersonic train headlights I 
mistook for "light at the end of the tunnel".

I'm going to go now to get my telescoping (drywall stilts) runner's legs fit in 
place of the organic ones I grew (and then abused/neglected) over the past 65 
years.    I'm holding out for AR corneal transplants for a few more months, I 
think it will be worth the long wait for the upgraded features and the new 
neural lace interface specs.

- Sieve

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