Thanks, Steve. A reminder the movie event is this Thursday: https://watch.eventive.org/aware/play/615f2c9cfb31210037ecade7
And although these may be overvalued, they and ones like them are finally showing some progress: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CMPS?p=CMPS&.tsrc=fin-srch https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MNMD?p=MNMD&.tsrc=fin-srch The argument surrounding plant awareness and expression is interesting. It makes sense to me to argue that if plants are "sentient" in any operable sense, their communication and self-sensing would occur at the molecular scale, perhaps going outward a bit to tissue and inward a bit to coherence. (Interesting, if a bit romantic, essay here: https://quantumfrontiers.com/2021/11/07/entangled-fields-and-post-anthropocene-computation-quantum-perspectives-for-a-healthy-planet/) But my guess is most of the larger scale sounds plants generate are non-sentient acoustic emission, like your motor clicking after you shut it off. But who knows, vibration may be similar to "force-based" treatments like physical therapy or massage ... or even acupressure. Just because acupuncture seems like pure pseudoscience, other force-based therapy, including vibration-based may have finer grained impact than we can currently account for (e.g. https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/physics-and-astronomy/ultrasonic-cavitation). Heliotropism is also a thing, I guess. On 11/1/21 1:37 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > I found this article on consciousness interestingly broadening of my own view > of it: > > https://www.geekwire.com/2021/neuroscientist-recounts-long-strange-trip-plumb-depths-consciousness/ > -- "Better to be slapped with the truth than kissed with a lie." ☤>$ uǝlƃ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/