It may come as a surprise that I agree. >8^D There will be no *widespread* Enlightenment. 
We're limited to a mind-oligopoly. Whereas the intelligentsia of the right lean toward a 
philosopher dictator (e.g. Thiel's "Straussian Moment"), I lean toward a maximally 
sized thinking class. My inspiration is (up to my ignorance) biological. We specialize 
everything into niches. Why not specialize thought as well? Clearly, some of us are better 
at it than others.

The task, here, is to build an aggressive thinking class which rests on 
peri-altrustic values. What those values are and how they evolve is above my 
pay grade. But they are similar to those often attributed to the Enlightenment 
project (equivalence classes, freedom, do no harm, progress, justified true 
belief, etc.). And then pit that class against those who desire a singular 
benevolent dictator.

And that *war*, between those two groups of thinkers might be able to proceed 
with minimal suffering on the part of the non-thinkers, preferably through 
words and soft power as opposed to fire and blood.

But if "our" cognitively powerful people don't step up and take on the duty to out-think 
"their" cognitively powerful people, then you're right. Fire and blood it will be.


On 7/1/22 08:29, Marcus Daniels wrote:
I guess it will come as no surprise I think there will be no Enlightenment.   
There will be no civil debate.   A culture war is a war, and winning a war 
requires cruelty.   That's why the other side is winning.   They have their 
preferences, and they are pursuing them.   Liberals degenerate to too much 
reflection and inaction.  It's not going to be a win-win.

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of ? glen
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 1:35 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] self-care

The time for organized response has long passed. Voting Dem won't help much 
because of the antidemocratic senate, electoral college,  and scotus.

But we do have some tactical responses in place like the ACLU and such. They're 
just not strategic enough.

The depth of organization on the right seems to outstrip that of the left, 
despite the superficial distraction of the altright neoreactionaries and 
empty-headed 'deplorables'. Orgs like the Federalists have been planning and 
strategizing for decades while the Enlightenment project languishes in neglect.

Those of us NOT actively working on the "how we do that" part bear as much 
blame for the cruelty as the cruel, themselves. I'm as guilty as any dork, finding it 
much easier to plunge my head into the sand that is my tiny, largely irrelevant subdomain 
where I'm warm and comfy. But the dorks need to pull their heads out and work 
strategically on the political problem staring us in the face.

Getting to THAT shared value is a prerequsite to an effective long term 
strategy.


On June 30, 2022 9:33:34 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote:
First, a nap!

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn0853


On Jun 30, 2022, at 5:56 PM, Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> wrote:


I'm hoping that there is an overwhelming response by young people to vote 
Democrat in the upcoming elections.  Traditionally young people haven't voted 
in the numbers you'd expect.

---
Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 6:41 PM David Eric Smith 
<desm...@santafe.edu<mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote:
Yeah, the theme of performative cruelty as a social movement has now fully 
found and asserted its identity.

I wonder when the rest of us decide this is enough of a threat to need an 
organized response, and how we do that.

Eric



On Jul 1, 2022, at 8:17 AM, Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org<mailto:r...@elf.org>> 
wrote:

And they're discussing how to adapt the Texas bounty hunter law for catching 
people who cross state lines for forbidden practices.

-- rec --

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 3:12 PM Marcus Daniels 
<mar...@snoutfarm.com<mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
I can see it now.   Netflix and others won't let me watch when I'm a VPN.   
When folks ask the AI bot for contingencies for their self-administered medical 
procedures like this, only those on the coasts will get answers, whereas the 
s**thole states will require these services be blocked.

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com<mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On 
Behalf Of glen
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 8:22 AM
To: friam@redfish.com<mailto:friam@redfish.com>
Subject: [FRIAM] self-care

In the aftermath of the activist Justices overturning RvW, this popped up in my 
feed:

How to Give Yourself an Abortion
https://jewishcurrents.org/how-to-give-yourself-an-abortion<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fjewishcurrents.org%2fhow-to-give-yourself-an-abortion&c=E,1,-Zhst6g-QuPY81edlf5guSgQZYWNBDtKv-dBpsl270nvAgGGtae69BEi6B5aBys3TXw8Qrfjnw9C54JCGo7OUuFmFQpqvGQdE4H0OpbwhUY120PDbMU,&typo=1>

I remain torn on the issue of self-care. And lots of energy was added to my oscillators with the whole 
"horse dewormer" thing for COVID-19. (Yes, I'm poking fun both at the people who bought veterinary 
ivermectin and the people who used the disgusting sneer "horse dewormer".) To boot, this post came up 
this morning about a homeopathic packet sent home with the patient after surgery: 
https://centerforinquiry.salsalabs.org/2022cfimidyearemailversion11<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fcenterforinquiry.salsalabs.org%2f2022cfimidyearemailversion11&c=E,1,2-tYnySplBvRbyAEZY0KK5_SNRCghwoq9MmOb6g5eMt9G2A_oGrBmm9E1TaU7yvGTUKGOPabsgE4XOSxdStdMKcxT0twCXUSsGHdzEdo&typo=1>.
 (Placebo is a thing, despite Blumner's write-off.)

Nick is fond of asking people whether they take multivitamins or not. And while it's true most experts claim that *healthy* people just pee 
them out. *Who* amongst us actually qualifies as "healthy"? What does "health" even mean? That's not an idle or rhetorical 
question. Am I "healthy", despite the excruciating chronic pain in my shoulders, neck, and lower back? Despite my sporadic 
debilitating migraines? Despite my now abated follicular lymphoma? Sure, I *seem* healthy because I can do pull-ups, shovel dirt, drink 5 pints 
without a hangover, and maintain a full-time job with a bit of time for hobbies. But what you see from the outside doesn't reflect what I feel 
on the inside, which is like a sick puppy where the slightest bad event would topple me into the "disabled" category. 
"Healthy" is at best a misinformation concept, at worst a malinformation concept: 
https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mdm-incident-response-guide_508.pdf<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.cisa.gov%2fsites%2fdefault%2ffiles%2fpublications%2fmdm-incident-response-guide_508.pdf&c=E,1,Ef-lWkoDnJgtSZ-J-K2J__Wq3myHESDDO7FOgc7aBf48epSTTibefBKrHiCBz7IkvQMKq_jRU9CmI-tNPXyTpwFzlorlRHmoGOhnyCjNZIFl-1kNK5Uos08,&typo=1>

Sneer all you want at the new-age descendant reading self-help books, cutting out 
magazine ads for their "vision board", or self-administering veterinary 
de-fetus pills, but there's something important, here. Fad diets, bottled water, 
alcoholism or pregnancy as an indicator for moral failure, etc. all point at that thing, 
whatever that thing is.

In that context, self-administered abortion is legit.


--
ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ
-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe   /   Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom 
https://bit.ly/virtualfriam
to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
archives:  5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/
 1/2003 thru 6/2021  http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/

Reply via email to