On 7/21/22 9:37 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Starlink is another obvious choice to provide better independent redundancy 
compared to local fiber trunks that could compromise several ISPs at once.

Until the next mass coronal ejection pointed our way arrives? I expect we will "soon" have proper mesh networks with redundant backbone modalities...  redundant structure at all scales perhaps?   But what would force/encourage us to do that?

2 is 1, 1 is none <glen>  or in the extreme "many is fewer... until it is also none".

I know people in TX who are naturally worried about the heatwave/power-grid-ERCOT problems there...  as Republicans gloat at how people/business are fleeing CA to TX because "life is so much better there"?   This segues (careens tangentially?) into the reports of women in other Southern States flocking to FL for abortions since their restrictive laws are *less* restrictive than the states surrounding?    Does the Federalist Society (and it's ilk) even HAVE systems thinkers in their ranks?



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From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
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2 is 1, 1 is none. 
<https://www.sebokwiki.org/wiki/Functional_redundancy_(glossary)>

On 7/21/22 07:45, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Does anyone use a 5G modem for home/business internet?    I noticed my 
unlimited wireless plan has one as an option for not much more.

I noticed that my VPN software was blocked when I used my phone as a personal 
hotspot.   Ideally, a seamless failover..

https://www.netgear.com/about/press-releases/2021/netgear-expands-orbi-line-with-industry-first-5g-tri-band-wifi6-mesh-system/
 
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*From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Tom Johnson
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2022 11:01 PM
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A big dump truck took out a bunch of lines at the intersection of Cerrillos and 
Richardson around noon on Wednesday.  The Xfinity lines took down every thing 
in , I think , ZIP Codes 87501, 87502 and 87505. And if there are multiple 
fiber lines, it's going to take time to resolve.

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Tom Johnson
Inst. for Analytic Journalism
Santa Fe, New Mexico
505-577-6482
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On Wed, Jul 20, 2022, 9:59 PM Gillian Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com 
<mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

     20 something assholes stonewallimg.  And none of them would even answer the 
most basic question of what the hell is going on that would cause a quote-unquote 
outage that would last the better part of coming up on now three goddamn days. The 
only thing they would do is just Stonewall repeat the same script nonsense of well 
there's notage like wtf happened did someone smash a line or dig to deport you know 
this is not exactly rocket science here there's something physically wrong or 
something that would be causing a " unquote outage.

     What is that even supposed to mean at this point? Especially if the only 
thing they will tell me is well it's an outage I mean what are they doing 3D 
printing the part and then importing it from booga booga no no no no no this 
stuff usually is at worst a few hours to to fix there is no mystery here 
they're just that incompetent.



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