Glen said:

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So another form of Dave's argument, still metaphysical, is this Smolin-esque (or even Schrödinger-esque ala negentropy?) concept that our objective(s) is tightly coupled pockets of deep computation. And *that*, given that our brains are fantastic computers, gives some weight to the idea that deep and broad introspection gets one closer to God, closer to the objective, closer to the real occult Purpose behind it all in much the same way as studying quantum mechanics and quantum computation.

My argument *against* that is that even if tightly coupled (coherent) pockets of computation are a crucial element, so is the interstitial space *between* the tight pockets ... like black holes orbiting each other or somesuch. It's not merely the individual pocket/computer that's interesting, it's the formation, dissolution, and interaction of the pockets that's more interesting. Actually, then, the *void* is more interesting than the non-void.

The first paragraph references my current interest in not strict *computation* but something notionally larger/subsuming of computation and that is *consciousness* (without trying to define the latter further for the moment, just asserting that it is a proper superset of the former).  This makes it more, not less metaphysical of course.

Depending on the author/source,  life, mind, consciousness (in the animist/panpsychist/pan-consciousnes conceptions) seems to fit well complementary to your use of "computation".   As presented a few dozen posts back, my current fascination is along the arc of Deacon's Homeo/Morpho/Teleo Dynamics formulation around these problems/considerations.  I did get one off-list response to that which suggests that some here are familiar/interested in this perspective...  my breath is 'bated.

I think that the point you make about the voids might be another way of describing the power-law/fractal distribution of structure across scale, not privileging any particular scale of "tightly coupled (coherent) pockets of *utation"?   Or maybe I am getting this wrong/clumsy also.



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