No, as I understand it, HIPAA would *not* be violated. That's a common (right 
wing) trope. HIPAA only applies to licensed medical professionals who disclose 
their *patients'* data or gain inappropriate access to other provider's 
patients' data. But if you don't have a license, then you can't violate HIPAA.

A non-licensed hacker busting into some electronic health records DB would not 
be a HIPAA violation, at least not for the hacker. A social engineering hack, 
where some pharmacist or whatever clicked on a phishing link and that resulted 
in the hacker getting access ... well, perhaps the pharmacist could be accused 
of a HIPAA violation. But the hacker is still just an ordinary cyber criminal.

I still worry that spying on and disclosing (semi) private data about elected 
officials might be a crime of some kind. But you're the PI. So you'd know!

On 8/19/22 12:25, Steve Smith wrote:
GEPR -
This sounds like a fantastic project for a public OSINT challenge. You *know* all 
those codgers have terrible OpSec, probably order their drugs through the USPS or 
worse, have their underpaid, over-abused admin assistants pick 'em up at the drive 
through window of the pharmacy. A good camera and a parabolic mic and Bob's your 
uncle. >8^D

It's probably a crime, though.

yah... busting into their records would be... HPPA and all that (which I 
support).

Your version (distance scrutiny of public behaviour/sigInt) would not be (on the surface anyway).   Like Jack 
Sweeney's Billionaire-Jet-Tracking efforts.  Sometimes this kind of work 
<https://www.amazon.com/Trevor-Paglen-Unseen-John-Jacob/dp/1911282336/ref=pd_bxgy_sccl_2/147-8329599-4719344?pd_rd_w=x3mIb&content-id=amzn1.sym.7757a8b5-874e-4a67-9d85-54ed32f01737&pf_rd_p=7757a8b5-874e-4a67-9d85-54ed32f01737&pf_rd_r=9R7EAMZEBWZ0R3F49MCB&pd_rd_wg=IJDl5&pd_rd_r=28b14ca2-d8a3-4908-b468-520b2a8d0114&pd_rd_i=1911282336&psc=1>
 verges on (performance?) Art...

I personally would not want to see *anyone* busted for their chemical (or other 
technological) augmentation in any harsh way, but I would not mind seeing it 
included in a low-level pressure campaign to shift the average elected office 
encumbent age downward.   I'm happy if Bernie Sanders was juicing a little for 
the last Senate all-nighter (tactically) but not so happy that such things may 
have become standard practice (like steroids Mr. Universe and WWF but not in 
Olympic Weight LIfting and Chess-Boxing).  JFK, FDR and who knows how many 
(other) TLA-presidents had their own personal physician juicing them for things 
the public was unaware of...   performance enhancing or remedial, what is the 
line?


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