So what do you think? Are CEOs, CFOs etc. and corporate board members at any medium or short-term risk of losing their jobs to machine learning? I like to hear some opinions on this.
Thx, Grant > On Mar 31, 2023, at 1:21 PM, Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com> wrote: > > Arrrr... looking more closely, Grant wrote CxO not QxO. Google quickly > enlightened me on the former. Sorry for the noise. > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 2:19 PM Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com> > wrote: >> >> I must admit my ignorance here, not aided in the least by a cursory >> Google search: What is QxO? >> >> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 10:59 AM Grant Holland >> <grant.holland...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Frank, >>> >>> I'm wondering why no-one seems to raise the specter that AI could start >>> replacing management personnel. And I’m including CxO’s here; because I’m >>> not convinced that CxO-ing is rocket science or quantum mechanics. Think of >>> the billions saved. After all, if machine learning cannot get good at >>> making better decisions than humans, and constantly improving at it, I >>> would be very surprised. >>> >>> Grant >>> >>> On Mar 30, 2023, at 8:58 AM, Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Not particularly relevant to your main point but Raj Reddy, close colleague >>> of Newell and Simon, once said, "It is easier use AI to replace a college >>> professor than a bulldozer operator" or words tho that effect. >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> --- >>> Frank C. Wimberly >>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >>> >>> 505 670-9918 >>> Santa Fe, NM >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 8:50 AM Prof David West <profw...@fastmail.fm> wrote: >>>> >>>> The "AI Pause" made national TV news yesterday (long after those on this >>>> list noted and reacted to it) and that made me revisit a theme I have >>>> thought about since Newell, Simon, and Shaw created Logic Theorist. >>>> >>>> Advocates take a caricature (perhaps too strong a word) of human >>>> intelligence, write a program to emulate it and declare the program >>>> "intelligent." >>>> >>>> The original conceit: true intelligence was the kind of thinking exhibited >>>> by college professors and scientists. Almost trivial to emulate (Newell >>>> and Simon programmed Logic Theorist on 3x5 cards before Shaw was able to >>>> implement on a computer). >>>> >>>> Maybe reading—correctly converting text to sound, like a child—was more >>>> indicative of human intelligence, and Sejnowski created NetTalk. that, >>>> somewhat eerily, produced discoveries of sounds, and errors, and achieved >>>> near perfect ability to "read." Listen to the tapes sometime and contrast >>>> them with tapes of a human child learning to read. Of course, >>>> comprehension of what was read did not make the cut. >>>> >>>> State of the art improved dramatically and the caricatures of human >>>> intelligence are more sophisticated and the achievements of the programs >>>> more interesting. >>>> >>>> But, it seems to me there is still a critical gap. We can program an AI >>>> (or let one learn) to fly a commercial jet as well or better than a human >>>> pilot—BUT, could even the best of of breed of such an AI pull a >>>> Shullenberger and land on the Hudson River? >>>> >>>> Another factor behind the "hysteria" (sorry for the sexism) over AIs >>>> causing massive unemployment is a corollary to the caricaturization of >>>> human intelligence. Since the Industrial Revolution, and certainly since >>>> the age of Taylorism and the rise of automation; work itself has been >>>> dehumanizing. >>>> >>>> If you define human work in terms of what can be done by a computer then >>>> it is tautological to claim an AI is intelligent because it can perform >>>> human work. >>>> >>>> I was contemplating ChatAIs and quickly realized that my >>>> profession—college professor—was one at immense risk of replacement. I >>>> would bet good money that a ChatAI could produce, and maybe deliver, >>>> lectures far better than any I created in 30 years teaching. And probably >>>> most, if not all, of the presentations I made at professional conferences >>>> over the years. >>>> >>>> I am still vain enough to think that some of the papers and books I have >>>> written are beyond an AI, and certain that no AI could do as well in >>>> spontaneious Q&A after a presentation than I. >>>> >>>> Bottom line, I still believe that AI can and does equate to HI, only when >>>> some aspect of HI is ommitted from the equation. This is not essentialism, >>>> but analogous to the digitization of a sine wave, no matter the finite >>>> sampling rate, there is always some missing information. >>>> >>>> davew >>>> >>>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>>> archives: 5/2017 thru present >>>> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>> >>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: 5/2017 thru present >>> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>> >>> >>> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: 5/2017 thru present >>> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . 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