Speaking of emergence, any takes on Phillip Ball's article in Quanta?

https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-new-math-of-how-large-scale-order-emerges-20240610/

I really liked his summary of the current non-explanations for emergence, but I haven't had time to read further.

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As a member of a group here roughly described as "Complexity Groupies" I am heartened to hear Ball's acknowledgement that "nobody" really seems to have a good explanation of "what emergence is".  It feels parallel to art and pornography in the sense of "I don't know what it is, but I know it when I see it".

Terrence Deacon's classifications of dynamic systems seems to provide some insight or fine structure to emergence, though I don't know if it is widely interesting or helpful to others.  He applies it primarily to life unto consciousness studies.  It seems particularly apt to Ball's references to "heirarchical" systems while his references to "leaky" emergence rhymes (a little for me) with Herb Simon's "partially decomposable" systems.

As an aside, I don't think I would have recognized Crutchfield... I haven't seen him in person since about 2009 when he was doing an art-project with Woody Vasulka and microphone/speaker/ambient-space dynamical systems at the old bank building downtown?  Or maybe it was a few years earlier...

Deacon's classification system:

*homeodynamic:*A system is homeodynamic if its spontaneous, natural or unforced path leads towards equilibrium. Homeodynamics erases differences (e.g., in temperature or pressure).

*morphodynamic:*A system is morphodynamic if it tends to spontaneously increase in order. This generally involves external perturbations, but does not involve external design or imposition of form. Morphodynamics subsumes many standard examples of self-organization. Morphodynamics amplifies differences.

*teleodynamic:*A system is teleodynamic if its organization becomes spontaneously end-directed. Teleodynamic systems employ homeodynamic and morphodynamic processes in the service of a self. Terms like ‘self-maintenance’ and ‘self-repair’ become natural and unavoidable in teleodynamic systems.


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