I find that Michael Levin speaks elaborately and eloquently on the
code/environment duality in many interesting contexts:
https://drmichaellevin.org/
On 6/12/24 4:30 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
Emergence as a kind of “software in the natural world"? If we mean
code by it, then yes, certainly. Every developer knows that each piece
of code which is added makes the system more complex. Therefore we
usually try to keep it simple. For biological systems it is the DNA
code. For cultural systems it is the hidden code people do not want to
talk about because everything related to it is sacred (at least for
the group which it defines). The knights templar had their own code,
the order of the cistercians, the Franciscans and the other religious
orders and organizations as well.
Cults and sects have their code ( which can be simple political
slogans such as "Make Your Country Great Again", "Build the wall" and
"Lock them up" or simply "Do not criticize the supreme leader").
Criminal organizations have their code. Ideologies and political
parties have their code. Behind every complex organism or organization
there seems to be some form of code or DNA that generates and
maintains it.
Whenever something is happening in nature it is either supper or
pairing time. Obviously because the underlying "selfish" code has
created bodies which have the directive to maintain and replicate
themselves. If we look at cultural systems, for instance at political
conventions or at religious congregations, then we notice that every
time something is really happening at a larger scale is that the code
becomes active. People come together to read or express laws, rules,
guidelines and policies.
So I would say yes, if there is a secret then it is the code.
Definitely. Is there a new math for it? IMO it is quite hard to
formulate the expression of such a code in general mathematically. For
example how can you describe mathematically if the speech of a
president or party leader or priest has bigger consequences or not? It
is at least as complicated as calculating a path integral in Quantum
Field Theory.
What might be possible is to calculate a probability how a group
behavior changes depending how frequent a rule is read, remembered and
expressed.
-J.
-------- Original message --------
From: Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org>
Date: 6/12/24 8:05 PM (GMT+01:00)
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
<Friam@redfish.com>
Subject: [FRIAM] new math of complexity
Speaking of emergence, any takes on Phillip Ball's article in Quanta?
https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-new-math-of-how-large-scale-order-emerges-20240610/
I really liked his summary of the current non-explanations for
emergence, but I haven't had time to read further.
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