There are different categories of anti-AI. So it's difficult to answer your question without knowing *which* categories of anti-AI you're seeing. One type comprises "creatives" - writers, animators, etc. See https://www.data-mania.com/blog/anthropic-copyright-settlement-training-data-risk/ It seems to me that many in this category aren't so much anti-AI as they are "I need money to buy food. So please don't steal from me." If the pro-AI people don't understand that, then they're just stupid ... or maybe they don't care ... or maybe they're hardcore meritocracy people and it's fine if the creatives go homeless and die in the streets. IDK.
Another category of anti-AI is on the consumer end. My friends and colleagues send me a LOT of generated garbage. This was bad before the advent of the transformer. It's 1/2 the reason I quit Facebook. It even goes all the way back to when the normies got access to email. Spam was (still is, I think) ill-defined. I was forced to help Renee' troll her spam folder the other day. It was filled with promotional email from various companies she buys from. I'm like "That's not spam! You signed up to get those emails." And she's like "I don't care. It's spam." So I said, "then unsubscribe!" And she said, "I don't care." 🤷 So the anti-AI Slop sentiment is real. It's just more intense because now you can get spammed by stupid brain farts from your "friends" (who have no respect for your attention) in the form of Sora-generated pixels or Claude-programmed Sorry simulators. >8^D See https://www.techradar.com/pro/open-source-software-users-are-being-hit-by-ai-written-junk-bug-reports Still another category of anti-AI might be named the Transcomputationalists. These are people who seem to think biology (or spirituality) is somehow fundamentally different from what any kind of computer can do. This group would include people like Roger Penrose *and* prolly our own Dave West (?). But it would also include people who believe in ghosts, Ancient Aliens, hypercomputation, etc. The objection from this category is that *if* they're right, then when we anthropomorphize our computers too much (e.g. replacing your "bar friend" with ChatGPT) creates a huge cognitive bias ... a dangerous bias that risks enslavement to a badly flawed understanding of how the world actually works. See https://buttondown.com/maiht3k/archive/ Anyway, those are 3 of them. I tried to frame their objections in ordinary language. Sorry if I've failed. Am *I* anti- or pro-? Neither. Both. I'm a pluralist, and mercenary. Anyone who postures as any 1 thing seems deranged to me. But I do need to eat. Luckily, I'm almost dead and if I don't eat, the world will be fine. I feel bad for the kids, though. On 1/7/26 4:52 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
Thanks man! I am so confused. Folks say: pls stop with repetitive jobs a robot can do. So for a few years now people with a bunch PHDs are..trying very hard to make that a reality. Sigh I mean sure generative ai going bat crazy (hulicinating) is bad. But As a wiseman might say: *sigh* like hello? People want help with insanely mundane, or insanely dangerous jobs done by robots...well need the brains (models) trained and doing workouts(collecting data to [hopefully] do better)lol we probably won't get the ED-209 for a while. but man who knows: Drugs(the medicine kind!) food, better driving, blah blah. I'd be down (sometimes) for a uber with a robot taking me to a doctors---as a option. lol I mean sure getting steam power model 706 or bamboo jeep with with a a Foghorn levels of loud horn with AcMe Driver service might be more mind of MagicalReal and Drive In Mutant levels of weird cozy...but if an eccentric driver isn't available? 7 of 9 or T'pol sending over a remote controlled Uber or something? Wicked! Can folks help me grok the AniAi FUD? Better. I hear them going: omg my job and meaning in life--ok that's legit. Having Scruffy artists that pose Ai? bring it on! there was a super fun DJ mix I stumbled across on Spotify that was hillarius Djent, and ragemetal core mixture of halloween and christmas stuff. (humans made it acording to spotify) But then I switched to youtube for Ai generated white noise and ambients and found a bunch that were just cheasburgers for the ears to cook to. And yet I read about all kinds of people going zomg RAM, GPU's my job! Are people really that worried already? seems like it's just FOX and Friends fearmongering...but what's the friam hot take? On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 1:35 PM glen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Why not ask Qwen3:32b how Alibaba does it? It took your Eli5 seriously! 8^D Maybe we really want an "explain it like I'm 17"? Qwen3 says: Imagine you have a toy robot that can draw pictures. Normally, the robot needs a big, powerful battery (like a supercomputer) to do this. But Alibaba found a way to make their robot work with a tiny battery (light hardware) by doing a few clever things: 1. **Simpler Tools**: They use "smart brushes" (optimized algorithms) that draw good pictures without needing fancy, heavy tools. Think of it like using a magic pencil that works well even if it looks basic. 2. **Less Ink, Same Art**: They teach the robot to use just the right amount of "ink" (computing power). For example, if the robot only needs to color in parts of a picture, it skips the rest, saving energy. 3. **Practice Makes Perfect**: They train the robot to focus on the most important details (like edges of a cat or a tree) and ignore tiny, unimportant stuff. This makes the robot faster and less hungry for power. 4. **Special Battery**: They might have a "magic battery" (custom chips) made just for drawing, so it uses less energy than a regular battery. So, even though drawing pictures usually needs a lot of power, Alibaba’s robot is smart, efficient, and uses the right tools to do it with a tiny battery! 🌟 On 1/7/26 11:46 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > Can someone (try to) Eli5: how the heck is it that Alibabab is making (some) headway with generative images and machine vision on relatively light hardware OO - just curious. >
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