Gil, we would like to help you recover your account, but we do not want to be 
involved in any kind of illegal activity or hacking. I can try to explain you 
how quantum mechanics works - although the others would know it probably better 
than me - or help you solve a programming question - but people now use Claude 
anyway. Or I could try to show you Berlin if you should come here. But we 
cannot help you getting access to a lost account which belongs to a big 
corporation. Only they have access. For these big corporations a single user 
doesn't matter.Best wishes, Jochen
-------- Original message --------From: Gillian Densmore 
<[email protected]> Date: 8/27/26  11:15 PM  (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday 
Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 
[FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else to ask Pardon the 
large font. it is not a troll. it's because of aging and needing to update my 
glasses and I for one find it a lot easier to read on a 2k res monitor, so I am 
attempting to be helpful. If I am wrong. let me know.The TLDR somehow someone 
stole tons of personal a data,emails, and passwords, in one of several 
particularly violent and deep data theft vioolations. In my case the proverbial 
nuke started at google, and then the blast radius (other potential systems they 
can get into) spread from there. When I initially asked I thought that I had to 
try to recover a few terrible pictures that have a grip of sentimental value i 
can not replace: for those who don't know how googles thing works you have 
basically a big box that can hold email (gmail) or or stuff (googledrive) the 
part I had asked about: is the google drive part specifically google 
pictures.so TLDR (again) is:as put it to my aunt "

.petaQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ferengi up and broke into my all kinds my personal 
data: including bank and gmail. (Hilariously enough Steam. The Game hosting 
platform kind. gave them the redshirt treatment faster than a ferengi caught 
stealing from a Klingon). So that leads me to requesting kinds sir virtual 
(holographic remotes)."  so the outline is basically 
thisgoogledrive(locke/hacked/stolen/heldhostage/and otherwise esonsed like a 
fereng petaQ with what ever it is google needs in order to believe me (Lord 
[BLANK] Gillian Densmore) is the dude that is the right and proper owner of 
[email protected]    (the personal data etc atached to it) and were able to 
attempt to go on to hack into (cringe) what ever other related systems they 
{grawlix here} wanted to. aka 
DOCKED/DOXED----------------------------------------------->pictures:----------------------------->pictures
 from world con (oof but.) pictures of grandpa and grandma (high sentimental 
partially me much more so my dad and co) because he is ummm how I put this...in 
Suto'vo'qorSo yes. a earnest ask Gud Fur, danke.  Der. Das Problem ist 
Folgendes: Die Schritte unter der URL zur Selbsthilfe funktionieren nicht. 2FA: 
Fehlanzeige. OTP: Was ist das? etc etc. the attackers managed to make there 2FA 
stuff think I am not not a idiot named Gil. They even tried to convince BoFa I 
don't have an account and it took a scary long amount of time before there 
security kicked them out. and I had used biometrics. same with amazon and lots 
more. What's scary. Ok explination and context for what follows time! I love 
this thing called Steam (hosting platform etc)  TLDR: Valve: guys that made 
hafl-life and a few other things run cloud thing called steam it hosts games. 
Steam-the games company kind!   Steam didn't even let them get past the 
password screen, they notified pretty insanely fast and basically locked out 
the intruders.So um ja Lass uns bei Google einbrechen! Ich bringe die 
Brechstange, du holst die Tastatur. Und,Danke Steve-On Thu, Aug 27, 2026 at 
2:13 PM Eric Charles <[email protected]> wrote:Yes, that is the 
part I understood. But it seemed like they thought someone on the list should 
be able to write a... I guess a computer program to... I guess to fix that... 
somehow... I get the need to vent frustration sometimes... but was there an 
actual serious ask? Is the request for someone to try to brute-force hack gmail 
on her behalf, or something worse?  Or was it just a semi-coherent all-caps 
"old-man yells at clouds" meme?  Best,EricOn Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 9:40 PM 
Stephen Guerin <[email protected]> wrote:it looks like Gil was locked 
out of a secondary Gmail account: 
[email protected]____________________________________________CEO Founder, 
[email protected] Harvard Visualization Research and 
Teaching [email protected]: (505)577-5828On Mon, Aug 24, 
2026, 4:07 PM Eric Charles <[email protected]> wrote:I'll be 
honest... I'm not sure I found the big-text emails all that coherent. What I 
gathered is that you lost access to a gmail account, which I understand can be 
insanely frustrating. But clearly you have access to the gmail account you are 
using to email this list. What I'm not sure about is what you think any of us 
can do about it. Are you demanding that someone here write a program to re-hack 
your email? If so, that's pretty far from anything my Ph.D. had anything to do 
with, and even if I could do that, I'm not sure I'd be inclined to discuss the 
problem in a fairly public forum. Best,EricOn Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 10:20 AM 
Gillian Densmore <[email protected]> wrote:Good morning Steve, 99% of the 
time I am 100% onboard with me(or anyone else) to keep it... middle of the 
road. And a big Mea Culpa for the many times that's been a issue. This one time 
it's entirely as writing thing for my voice. That's why I wanted to warn people 
that'd have (some censored because..just the right to do) and still have, that 
voice to convey throught text. Because until the web develops more of that 
(with filters), because even as a style choice: no one wants there boss getting 
a WWF replay at lol.And man thank also so much..It...means, the world, you've 
done what other failed at: just read and listen. That's all I wanted. But 
it'salso  not fair to have a arrogant company like google to steel my 
memories.:( I am just desperate for more peoplelike you at least read, and 
listenI have tried man.The forums have blocked meYoutubers that know the stuff: 
radeo silence.I have to have my memories and that drives contents ripped out of 
googles posesion, by any means necessary. And I do mean. ANY means. Well legal 
routs are dwindling, and I will never ever let this go, not ever.  I refuse to 
believe people with all there experience here can not help. I suspect. just 
suspect. for now. That is more disgusting: unwilling to helpHere's the dagger 
CO  me.On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 8:04 AM Stephen Guerin 
<[email protected]> wrote:Gil,I understand your frustration and have 
experienced it myself. The list probably is unable to help your challenges with 
restablishing your identity with Google or any corporate or govnernment system. 
You do hae identity here, which is established through relations in the network 
with me, your father and your others in town who know you physically or through 
social links. If you were an anonymous member on the list, your messages would 
have been first throttled for pre approval or removed. On and off list I have 
asked you to tone down the language and venting on the list mainly for folks on 
the list who don't know you.At a different level, we are thinking very 
concrelely on how identity works, webs of trust which is becoming esp important 
in the era of AI and the early promises of the decentralized web. And we think 
it goes beyond self-soveign identiy and to identity that is relational first. 
Of course this doesn't help your most immediate issues with Google.You are in 
the top percentage of internet users that may be able to help develop and test 
decentralized hosting of our data and intel intel and identity management. eg 
you are comfortable installing your own local servers and warez. We may hit you 
up to help in the near future.Love you, and tone it the F$%k down 
;-)-Stephen_________________________________________________________________Stephen
 GuerinCEO, Founder https://[email protected] 
[email protected] Research and Teaching LabHarvard 
Earth and Planetary ScienceLandscape Architecture Harvard Graduate School of 
Designmobile: (505)577-5828On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:22 AM Gillian Densmore 
<[email protected]> wrote:NIB:What: me goatsed, somehow "hackers" (script 
kiddies i'd wager):  have stolen my google account at: [email protected] 
one used for forums and basically where it's slop and spam.the problem for the 
only and last time. Read and  ask me or owen AMA. I will not repeat my myself 
beyond questions ok.somehow between all of googles pathetic fancy security 
bullshit. Me having one of the code generator authenticator things blah blah. I 
had been up to then using lastpass.The timelineDownloading music off of youtube 
with a opensoruced appcalled parabolic. (lounge music):Got kicked off 
lineChecked comcast tried to log inand could noti am on android:I tried first 
last pass's authenticator that failed so did googles authenticator, (just 
incase I misread)I tried to clear the cache of Last Pass's Authenticator  and 
reinstall (failed)I tried to clear the cache of  Googles authenticator then 
tried to reinstall it.(nothing)I have tried literally all the ways I can 
try:passwordsgo to there "help" forum (just get ignored, like here) and they 
only link the shit google offers and there are loads of threads of how this is 
where gmail is pathetic: it assumes all kinds of stuff I guess, and they fail 
miserably: see also:the exact same 
problemhttps://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1pa4qza/my_account_is_being_held_hostage/https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1v8lt93/gmail_got_hacked/I
 do not care how. I just am now: demanding this gets unfucked.On Thu, Aug 13, 
2026 at 6:00 AM Gillian Densmore <[email protected]> wrote:I really like 
i've presented two real world problems...and crickets. Did everyone forget 
apply there fancy PHDs?Linking the same failed things does not help me in 
anyway shape or form. And frankly it comes across as a slight and insult for 
someone to then go off onto some incoherent something,while there's a _real_ 
problem that you socalled PHD's with all kinds of programing skills and a very 
real applied fuckery from a god damn secruity failure. So once againFrom the 
topOne of my google acounts: goatse'd between god knows what and who knows what 
about 2 weeks ago and since thenI have been bashing my head agains the same 
fucking wall of trying to get people to help me beyond a link I have said 9999 
times I have tried all those things. I now need some help with where the hell 
go to for real actual help: Is it a lawyer?Is it a ghost?A white hat?Someone 
named todWhowhatand whereThat will get me some god damn traction on my problem 
do I contact. Once I know that. I will happily let you people go back to what 
ever it was that Jofr guy posted.No I will not StFU untill this problem has all 
hands, actually helping wich is what i have been SCREAMING  for and will not 
StFU about until this problem is fixed.On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 4:26 PM Gillian 
Densmore <[email protected]> wrote:that's...the problem literally nothing 
at google works. -_- On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 10:08 AM jofr <[email protected]> 
wrote:I would try to contact Google support or follow the guidelines on the 
official help pages. Good 
luckhttps://support.google.com/accounts/answer/7682439?hl=en-J.-------- 
Original message --------From: Gillian Densmore <[email protected]> Date: 
8/12/26  5:51 PM  (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee 
Group <[email protected]> Subject: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't 
know who else to ask google:someone or something has hijacked my 
account-despite 2fa (that's actually being a ******** problem)-despite a 
software passkey hack (see above)-despite lastpass (getting to that ****** in 
the ******** in a second)etc etc.Problem-about 14-16 days ago i was on youtube 
getting a bunch of music. something happened and I was kicked off line and 
tried to log back in:then i was ******* of several accounts and no ia m not 
going to clean up or sanitize just how raw this going to be.Level M warning 
intensity HEAVILY implied.You have been warned.In short: me on youtube getting 
a bunch of music: got kicked out of an account [email protected] 
account for forums and stuff problems in no particular order:-> password I have 
in cache wrong,-> last pass: can't get in because-> my authenticator stuff on 
my ****** google f'n  account something from those keys wasn't working and I 
made the mistake of thinking it was androids normal fuckin' bullshit so I just 
cleared it's cache and tried to reinstall: I could not do that. ->I've tried: 
litterally any fucking way to get throughg gmails: "try this other" way all 
those none of that worked-> I have tried there youtube reset in the vein hope 
that'd work to get into my ********* google ******** drive. no luck there-> I 
have tried the forums: that is the most usless fucking bullshit it's just there 
to fuck you over and let me tell you it works;-> they don't really help they 
just link you to a mega thread posted here thing: oh google doesn't have: 
anything normal no otp, no text, nothing zero zilch nada.-> ok so youtube might 
be a back door it's the only thing they seem ****** care about. so I tried 
that: you have some kind handle and unchangeable url messy url shades of 
wordpress thing: Ok gave it to them, a stupid ai chat bot etc.-> not a fucking 
thing has workedlike I have told everyone that'll listen: i don't give a fuck 
about the contents of my god dam inbox: it's motly spam. really I i just have 
got to recover: travel pictures, some shit from world con, and family picture, 
all kinds neet little things: meh amature quality  but...thee my ******* 
memories and I am disgusted with google. ok. I do not want a fucking thing to 
do with them ever again. i am begging anyone here and I i don't know what kind 
of bounty you'll or pretty decently big boon I can offer so someone can help 
unfuck this bullshit and get the fucking dick out of my fucking ass so I can 
get my god damn files.what the hell do I need to do to convince those 
alabastered motherfuckers to unass my fucking shit I do not care about the 
email Imean yeah, anyoing. but ayaya 67 it's friz, i ya know setting up a fresh 
digital footprint: yeah I dig brotha' that's a vibe, and starting fresh: why 
not, make it fun? ya know, but I will not relent on getting the stuff that 
matters: my fucking loot, my precious memories in a torrent. on local nas. I do 
not care what. I just have got to have them protected and back. and are 
disgusted how fucked up this is being just to get my life story back.pls man 
someone help me. You can go thrugh my dad (owen) if ya'all would rather even- I 
just have to have that stuft
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