Claude in Chrome can indeed be useful for navigating complicated IT systems. Also it may have seen other scenarios like this in its training.
From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2026 3:04 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else to ask Gil, we would like to help you recover your account, but we do not want to be involved in any kind of illegal activity or hacking. I can try to explain you how quantum mechanics works - although the others would know it probably better than me - or help you solve a programming question - but people now use Claude anyway. Or I could try to show you Berlin if you should come here. But we cannot help you getting access to a lost account which belongs to a big corporation. Only they have access. For these big corporations a single user doesn't matter. Best wishes, Jochen -------- Original message -------- From: Gillian Densmore <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Date: 8/27/26 11:15 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else to ask Pardon the large font. it is not a troll. it's because of aging and needing to update my glasses and I for one find it a lot easier to read on a 2k res monitor, so I am attempting to be helpful. If I am wrong. let me know. The TLDR somehow someone stole tons of personal a data,emails, and passwords, in one of several particularly violent and deep data theft vioolations. In my case the proverbial nuke started at google, and then the blast radius (other potential systems they can get into) spread from there. When I initially asked I thought that I had to try to recover a few terrible pictures that have a grip of sentimental value i can not replace: for those who don't know how googles thing works you have basically a big box that can hold email (gmail) or or stuff (googledrive) the part I had asked about: is the google drive part specifically google pictures. so TLDR (again) is: as put it to my aunt " .petaQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ferengi up and broke into my all kinds my personal data: including bank and gmail. (Hilariously enough Steam. The Game hosting platform kind. gave them the redshirt treatment faster than a ferengi caught stealing from a Klingon). So that leads me to requesting kinds sir virtual (holographic remotes)." so the outline is basically this googledrive(locke/hacked/stolen/heldhostage/and otherwise esonsed like a fereng petaQ with what ever it is google needs in order to believe me (Lord [BLANK] Gillian Densmore) is the dude that is the right and proper owner of [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> (the personal data etc atached to it) and were able to attempt to go on to hack into (cringe) what ever other related systems they {grawlix here} wanted to. aka DOCKED/DOXED ----------------------------------------------->pictures:----------------------------->pictures from world con (oof but.) pictures of grandpa and grandma (high sentimental partially me much more so my dad and co) because he is ummm how I put this...in Suto'vo'qor So yes. a earnest ask Gud Fur, danke. Der. Das Problem ist Folgendes: Die Schritte unter der URL zur Selbsthilfe funktionieren nicht. 2FA: Fehlanzeige. OTP: Was ist das? etc etc. the attackers managed to make there 2FA stuff think I am not not a idiot named Gil. They even tried to convince BoFa I don't have an account and it took a scary long amount of time before there security kicked them out. and I had used biometrics. same with amazon and lots more. What's scary. Ok explination and context for what follows time! I love this thing called Steam (hosting platform etc) TLDR: Valve: guys that made hafl-life and a few other things run cloud thing called steam it hosts games. Steam-the games company kind! <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_(service)> Steam didn't even let them get past the password screen, they notified pretty insanely fast and basically locked out the intruders. So um ja Lass uns bei Google einbrechen! Ich bringe die Brechstange, du holst die Tastatur. Und,Danke Steve- On Thu, Aug 27, 2026 at 2:13 PM Eric Charles <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Yes, that is the part I understood. But it seemed like they thought someone on the list should be able to write a... I guess a computer program to... I guess to fix that... somehow... I get the need to vent frustration sometimes... but was there an actual serious ask? Is the request for someone to try to brute-force hack gmail on her behalf, or something worse? Or was it just a semi-coherent all-caps "old-man yells at clouds" meme? Best, Eric On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 9:40 PM Stephen Guerin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: it looks like Gil was locked out of a secondary Gmail account: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ____________________________________________ CEO Founder, Simtable.com [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Harvard Visualization Research and Teaching Lab [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> mobile: (505)577-5828 On Mon, Aug 24, 2026, 4:07 PM Eric Charles <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I'll be honest... I'm not sure I found the big-text emails all that coherent. What I gathered is that you lost access to a gmail account, which I understand can be insanely frustrating. But clearly you have access to the gmail account you are using to email this list. What I'm not sure about is what you think any of us can do about it. Are you demanding that someone here write a program to re-hack your email? If so, that's pretty far from anything my Ph.D. had anything to do with, and even if I could do that, I'm not sure I'd be inclined to discuss the problem in a fairly public forum. Best, Eric On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 10:20 AM Gillian Densmore <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Good morning Steve, 99% of the time I am 100% onboard with me(or anyone else) to keep it... middle of the road. And a big Mea Culpa for the many times that's been a issue. This one time it's entirely as writing thing for my voice. That's why I wanted to warn people that'd have (some censored because..just the right to do) and still have, that voice to convey throught text. Because until the web develops more of that (with filters), because even as a style choice: no one wants there boss getting a WWF replay at lol. And man thank also so much.. It...means, the world, you've done what other failed at: just read and listen. That's all I wanted. But it'salso not fair to have a arrogant company like google to steel my memories.:( I am just desperate for more peoplelike you at least read, and listen I have tried man. The forums have blocked me Youtubers that know the stuff: radeo silence. I have to have my memories and that drives contents ripped out of googles posesion, by any means necessary. And I do mean. ANY means. Well legal routs are dwindling, and I will never ever let this go, not ever. I refuse to believe people with all there experience here can not help. I suspect. just suspect. for now. That is more disgusting: unwilling to help Here's the dagger CO me. On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 8:04 AM Stephen Guerin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Gil, I understand your frustration and have experienced it myself. The list probably is unable to help your challenges with restablishing your identity with Google or any corporate or govnernment system. You do hae identity here, which is established through relations in the network with me, your father and your others in town who know you physically or through social links. If you were an anonymous member on the list, your messages would have been first throttled for pre approval or removed. On and off list I have asked you to tone down the language and venting on the list mainly for folks on the list who don't know you. At a different level, we are thinking very concrelely on how identity works, webs of trust which is becoming esp important in the era of AI and the early promises of the decentralized web. And we think it goes beyond self-soveign identiy and to identity that is relational first. Of course this doesn't help your most immediate issues with Google. You are in the top percentage of internet users that may be able to help develop and test decentralized hosting of our data and intel intel and identity management. eg you are comfortable installing your own local servers and warez. We may hit you up to help in the near future. Love you, and tone it the F$%k down ;-) -Stephen _________________________________________________________________ Stephen Guerin CEO, Founder https://simtable.com [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Visualization Research and Teaching Lab <https://hwpi.harvard.edu/eps-visualization-research-laboratory/home> Harvard Earth and Planetary Science Landscape Architecture <https://www.gsd.harvard.edu/2025/02/landscape-architecture-students-explore-pioneering-climate-visualization-techniques-to-inform-design/> Harvard Graduate School of Design mobile: (505)577-5828 On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:22 AM Gillian Densmore <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: NIB: What: me goatsed, somehow "hackers" (script kiddies i'd wager): have stolen my google account at: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> That one used for forums and basically where it's slop and spam. the problem for the only and last time. Read and ask me or owen AMA. I will not repeat my myself beyond questions ok. somehow between all of googles pathetic fancy security bullshit. Me having one of the code generator authenticator things blah blah. I had been up to then using lastpass. The timeline Downloading music off of youtube with a opensoruced appcalled parabolic. (lounge music): Got kicked off line Checked comcast tried to log in and could not i am on android: I tried first last pass's authenticator that failed so did googles authenticator, (just incase I misread) I tried to clear the cache of Last Pass's Authenticator and reinstall (failed) I tried to clear the cache of Googles authenticator then tried to reinstall it. (nothing) I have tried literally all the ways I can try: passwords go to there "help" forum (just get ignored, like here) and they only link the shit google offers and there are loads of threads of how this is where gmail is pathetic: it assumes all kinds of stuff I guess, and they fail miserably: see also: the exact same problem <https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1pa4qza/my_account_is_being_held_hostage/> https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1pa4qza/my_account_is_being_held_hostage/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1v8lt93/gmail_got_hacked/ I do not care how. I just am now: demanding this gets unfucked. On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:00 AM Gillian Densmore <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I really like i've presented two real world problems...and crickets. Did everyone forget apply there fancy PHDs? Linking the same failed things does not help me in anyway shape or form. And frankly it comes across as a slight and insult for someone to then go off onto some incoherent something,while there's a _real_ problem that you socalled PHD's with all kinds of programing skills and a very real applied fuckery from a god damn secruity failure. So once again >From the top One of my google acounts: goatse'd between god knows what and who knows what about 2 weeks ago and since thenI have been bashing my head agains the same fucking wall of trying to get people to help me beyond a link I have said 9999 times I have tried all those things. I now need some help with where the hell go to for real actual help: Is it a lawyer? Is it a ghost? A white hat? Someone named tod Who what and where That will get me some god damn traction on my problem do I contact. Once I know that. I will happily let you people go back to what ever it was that Jofr guy posted. No I will not StFU untill this problem has all hands, actually helping wich is what i have been SCREAMING for and will not StFU about until this problem is fixed. On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 4:26 PM Gillian Densmore <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: that's...the problem literally nothing at google works. -_- On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 10:08 AM jofr <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I would try to contact Google support or follow the guidelines on the official help pages. Good luck https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/7682439?hl=en -J. -------- Original message -------- From: Gillian Densmore <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Date: 8/12/26 5:51 PM (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else to ask google: someone or something has hijacked my account -despite 2fa (that's actually being a ******** problem) -despite a software passkey hack (see above) -despite lastpass (getting to that ****** in the ******** in a second) etc etc. Problem -about 14-16 days ago i was on youtube getting a bunch of music. something happened and I was kicked off line and tried to log back in: then i was ******* of several accounts and no ia m not going to clean up or sanitize just how raw this going to be. Level M warning intensity HEAVILY implied. You have been warned. In short: me on youtube getting a bunch of music: got kicked out of an account at [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> alt account for forums and stuff problems in no particular order: -> password I have in cache wrong, -> last pass: can't get in because -> my authenticator stuff on my ****** google f'n account something from those keys wasn't working and I made the mistake of thinking it was androids normal fuckin' bullshit so I just cleared it's cache and tried to reinstall: I could not do that. ->I've tried: litterally any fucking way to get throughg gmails: "try this other" way all those none of that worked -> I have tried there youtube reset in the vein hope that'd work to get into my ********* google ******** drive. no luck there -> I have tried the forums: that is the most usless fucking bullshit it's just there to fuck you over and let me tell you it works; -> they don't really help they just link you to a mega thread posted here thing: oh google doesn't have: anything normal no otp, no text, nothing zero zilch nada. -> ok so youtube might be a back door it's the only thing they seem ****** care about. so I tried that: you have some kind handle and unchangeable url messy url shades of wordpress thing: Ok gave it to them, a stupid ai chat bot etc. -> not a fucking thing has worked like I have told everyone that'll listen: i don't give a fuck about the contents of my god dam inbox: it's motly spam. really I i just have got to recover: travel pictures, some shit from world con, and family picture, all kinds neet little things: meh amature quality but...thee my ******* memories and I am disgusted with google. ok. I do not want a fucking thing to do with them ever again. i am begging anyone here and I i don't know what kind of bounty you'll or pretty decently big boon I can offer so someone can help unfuck this bullshit and get the fucking dick out of my fucking ass so I can get my god damn files. what the hell do I need to do to convince those alabastered motherfuckers to unass my fucking shit I do not care about the email Imean yeah, anyoing. but ayaya 67 it's friz, i ya know setting up a fresh digital footprint: yeah I dig brotha' that's a vibe, and starting fresh: why not, make it fun? ya know, but I will not relent on getting the stuff that matters: my fucking loot, my precious memories in a torrent. on local nas. I do not care what. I just have got to have them protected and back. and are disgusted how fucked up this is being just to get my life story back. pls man someone help me. 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